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WTN: Haut-Brion '71-'98, '77 Port, Cristal, Taittinger Comtes

by Dale Williams » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:10 am

Last night SOBER (Several Oenophiles Being Extremely Rambunctious) met at Cathleen's house. Cathleen and her husband Steve did a fantastic job of hosting, while we went through a vertical of Haut-Brion.

Forecast was for snow, so we were eager to get started. Tim and I arrived a little early; while we waited for the others Cathleen offered us a couple of Champagnes:

1993 Roederer Cristal
A bit heavy and pondersome, slight oxidative notes and surprisingly short for a tete de cuvee. This isn't my style of Champagne (I prefer the lighter styles), but even allowing for my tastes I felt this was a less than thrilling bottle (I'm not a Krug fan, but can see what others see). Someone calls this "coarse", and I agree. C+

1993 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne
Ah, this is more like it (stylistically and qualitively). Lovely, with fresh dough aromas over a solid body of citrus and apple fruit. Plenty of body, yet very light on its feet. Elegant and long, great Champagne. A-/A

We munched on delicious onion tarts, a salmon spread, and nuts as the first round of Haut-Brion made its round. My grading had to get tightened up for this evening, as almost everything would have been in A-/A range on my normal scale.

1998 Ch. Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan)
Really young, but herby and rich. Good acidity, firm tannins. Others found it very closed, I thought fairly open at first, though it seemed to tighten. A B+ for now, but with loads of potential.

1996 Ch. Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan)
Now this one was tight (much more than one at Mark's a few months back, which maybe was decanted more). Not a lot of fruit poking through, I mostly got impressions of oak and tannins, but sure this will emerge beautifully. B for tonight

1995 Ch. Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan)
Very open in comparison to its flightmates, rich dark fruit with an herby/minty note. With a little time in glass a real cornucopia of aromas emerge- meat, mineral, and cigarbox dominate. Very good length, apparent but fine tannins, lovely. My surprise #2 of the night. A-

We moved onto a lovely cauliflower soup with proscuitto, and

1994 Ch. Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan)
Quite good. Nice fruit, some uncured tobacco and cedar aromas. Excellent for the vintage, I really liked, but it was totally overshadowed by its flightmate. B+/B

1990 Ch. Haut-Brion (Pessac-Leognan)

And what a flightmate. Rich, rich, rich. Big, ripe, open, and complex. Red and black currant fruit, with enough tobacco and cedar aromas to challenge a nice humidor. A later pour was maybe even better, deep fruit mixed with freshly turned earth. WOTN for me and for group. Solid A

A lovely leg of lamb arrived, along with green beans and an excellent mushroom risotto

1985 Ch. Haut-Brion (Graves)
Red and lush, texturally this reminded me of a Pomerol. Very minerally, more uncured tobacco leaf, I like. My #3 of evening A-/B+

1982 Ch. Haut-Brion (Graves)
Blacker fruit than some other, rather muscular and meaty. Still young for my tastes. My #4. A-/B+

An amazing array of cheeses

1978 Ch. Haut-Brion (Graves)
Most controversial wine of the night. Several felt it was slightly corked. I'm not the most TCA-sensitive in the world, but usually get it if others point out- I don't this time. There is a funny green must on the nose,but its not mildewy, and the palate shows plenty of fruit and length- nothing clipped as I expect from a corked wine. Some cigar and mineral. I didn't think the fruit was a lush/deep as my favored vintages, but didn't think this a flawed wine. B

1975 Ch. Haut-Brion (Graves)
This was showing that '75 hardness, a nice blend of dark fruit, earth, and smoke. But there is a little hint of green, and I thought the tannins a half-step ahead of the fruit. B

1971 Ch. Haut-Brion (Graves)
Soft and mature, I felt this was really good but maybe not quite as fresh/young as a bottle Mark had opened a few months ago. Lots of earth, leather, good finish. B+/A-

On a 4/3/2/1 vote, group favorites were:
1990 21 pts
82 13 pts
85 12 pt
71 8 pts
I liked the '95 far more than others, but the general level was so high it's just quibbling to argue. Not a wine I wouldn't have been happy to serveat my table.

Oh yes, there was also a bottle of the 1977 Taylor-Fladgate Vintage Port.
Great combo with the blue cheese, but I think my palate was shot overall by this point. Nice dark fruit, some dried fig and date, a bit of spice, but I found just too hot for me. Others (far more knowledgable about Port) declared it great, but I was driving and most of my pour went into dump bucket. B/B+

Really great night- the people, the food, the wine. Thanks to Cathleen for organizing and hosting, Steve for cooking/hosting, and Mark and John for helping source.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: Haut-Brion '71-'98, '77 Port, Cristal, Taittinger Comtes

by Dale Williams » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:19 pm

Just as a point of information, Cathleen had contacted the chateau for decanting advice. They had said 2 hours for the post-85s, 1 hour for the older ones. We might have stretched that a bit, 2-3 for younger and 1-2 for older.
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Re: WTN: Haut-Brion '71-'98, '77 Port, Cristal, Taittinger C

by Saina » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:31 pm

I haven't been spending as much time on wine boards as I should recently so this passed me by before. I love Haut-Brion. If it were cheaper (or if I were richer) it would be the only 1st growth I would buy regularily.

When you say about the 85 that it reminds you of Pomerol, what Ch did you have in mind? I have on a couple blind tastings mistaken VCC for HB - they can be surprisingly similar.

Thanks for the notes.

-O-(p.s. Apart from Fonseca, I haven't been terribly impressed with '77 Ports either! I have a feeling it was horribly overhyped.)
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Re: WTN: Haut-Brion '71-'98, '77 Port, Cristal, Taittinger Comtes

by Jenise » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:45 pm

Don't mean to hijack your thread, but a quick offtopic question. 93 L'Evangile--had it? Would you risk it at $43?
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'77 Port

by Anders Källberg » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:57 pm

Dale,
I opened a '77 Taylor's for Christmas and must agree with you (and Otto) that it was far from great. A decent and mature Vintage Port, but lacking in charm, depth and aromaticity.
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Re: '77 Port

by Saina » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:56 pm

Anders Källberg wrote:Dale,
I opened a '77 Taylor's for Christmas and must agree with you (and Otto) that it was far from great. A decent and mature Vintage Port, but lacking in charm, depth and aromaticity.
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Side tracking a bit. I have one bottle of the Graham's 1977, which is perhaps the most debated wine of all in the vintage. Some say it is shite: thin and weedy. Others say that it needs a very long decanting for the alcohol to settle and then it's very nice indeed. Anyone here have recent experiences with it? I'm thinking that at age 30 I would like to open it.

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Re: '77 Port

by Bob Henrick » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:01 pm

Otto, you are nowhere near 30...GA and open it. :)
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Re: WTN: Haut-Brion '71-'98, '77 Port, Cristal, Taittinger Comtes

by Dale Williams » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:22 pm

Otto,

No particular Pomerol in mind, just the idea of that textural lushness. Actually VCC (though a favorite of mine) often isn't very Pomerolian for my tastes.

Jenise,
I had the '93 L'Evangile about 6-7 years ago, thought it a fine restaurant Pomerol. Fatter, low-acid style. I'd be a little hesitant now, but undr $50 is a decent price.

Anders and Otto,
while I wasn't thrilled with the Taylors, I admit to palate fatigue, and to not being a real Port fan to start with. Two others there with far far far more Port experience both thought it quite grand.
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Re: '77 Port

by Anders Källberg » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:21 am

Great reply, Bob! :lol: (You were faster than I was...)
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Re: '77 Port

by Saina » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:00 pm

Bob Henrick wrote:Otto, you are nowhere near 30...GA and open it. :)


Ha ha! :)

Dale, I think you're right about VCC not being particularily Pomerolly. What I meant was that it can seem a bit Gravesey at times and hence my confusion in blind and half-blind tastings.

As a side note: doesn't anyone else in Pomerol that VCC make the less plump and plummy, more stern type of wine? I'm sure that VCC can't be the only one?

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Re: '77 Port

by Dale Williams » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:20 pm

Otto Nieminen wrote:As a side note: doesn't anyone else in Pomerol that VCC make the less plump and plummy, more stern type of wine? I'm sure that VCC can't be the only one?
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Well, first off I don't think any other major Pomerol property has near as much CS as VCC. Certan de May does have a lot of Cab Franc, and is probably "sterner" than most (though I think I heard Rolland just started there?). Maybe Petit Village.

That being said, while I drink less Pomerol than virtually any other Bdx appellation, when I do reach for one I am probably hoping for plump, plummy, and lush. If I want Pauillac or St Estephe, I'll open one!

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