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David M. Bueker
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Jenise
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Jenise wrote:I'm more likely to reach for it than cabernet these days as do many. But when it comes to special occasions and trophy stuff, cab is king and until there are as many women making the household wine decisions as there are men...well, don't hold your breath.
David M. Bueker
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
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SteveEdmunds wrote:David; I quoted you earlier today, when I was talking with Ann Kraemer at Shake Ridge, the Red Riesling quote, and she thought that was hilarious!
Jenise
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Rahsaan wrote:Two interesting points here. One is that syrah as an everyday wine is bad for sales? There are only a handful of special occasions per year, but everyday sales is the route to profit. Wasn't that always the problem with Champagne, trying to convince consumers to buy more than two bottles per year?!
And you think cabernet is more appealing to male consumers while syrah is more appealing to female consumers? Sturdier cabernet tannins tap into masculinity?
Jenise
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Paul Winalski
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David M. Bueker
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Paul Winalski wrote:IIRC, Randall Grahm smuggled some syrah cuttings from the Hermitage hill into California. He got caught years later when genetic sequencing showed that the syrah he had planted didn't match any of the clones approved for California but did match what's planted in Hermitage in France. I think the use of a superior, classic clone may have helped his considerable success with the variety.
Is the Hermitage clone still planted in CA, or did the authorities require it to be destroyed?
I've had many good syrahs from CA. But a lot of them were squeaky-clean and missed the smoky, meaty elements that I love in Northern Rhones. At a tasting once I mentioned to the winemaker that his syrah was very good, and only missing those Northern Rhone elements to be really great. He went ballistic and launched into a 5-minute rant about the evils of Brettanomyces.
-Paul W.
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