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WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

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WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by TomHill » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:43 pm

Had these three last weekend:
1. Anne de k Riesling AC: Vin d'Alsace Lieu-Dit Patergarten (13%; SarantyImprts; EB) Bestheim/Bennwihr 2015: Med.gold color; very light very slight R/floral/somewhat grapey/fruity rather dull/vacuous very vapid nose; fairly soft off-dry (0.6%-1.0% r.s.?) very slight metallic very light grapey/floral/no R fruit dull/vacuous flavor; very short soft/watery/vacuous off-dry finish; easily the most dull/vapid Alsatian wine I've ever had w/ virtually no R character whatsoever; very overpriced at $20.00 (TW)
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2. Dr.Heidemanns-Bergweiler Riesling Dry (11.5%; Q; A.P.Nr. 2 907 0880 7 20; SarantyImprts; www.Heidemanns-Bergweiler.com) Bernkastel/Mosel 2019: Med.light yellow color; very light vey slight R/floral vaguel grapey/fruity dull/innocuous nose; very slightly tart very light Mosel/floral off-dry (0.2%-0.5% r.s.?) bit fruity/grapey rather dull/insipid/vacuous rather watery flavor; fairly short lightly tart very slightly floral/R rather vacuous/insipid/watery finish; speaks quietly of R with a whisper; no Mosel character to speak of; two orders of magnitude below basic ZellarSwartzKatz; about as dull a Mosel as I've ever had; overpriced at $17.00 (TW)
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3. Poderi di Carlo RibollaGialla IGT: VeneziaGiulia ( 12.5%; SarantyImprts; Alfio Moriconi Slctn) Primosic Wines/Gorizia 2018: Med.yellow color w/ lots of mesmerizing tiny bubbles swirling about in the glass; very light grapey/fruity slight spicy rather dull/vapid nose w/ zero RG character; slight spritz/dissolved CO2 bit soft very light grapey/fruity rather vapid/watery flavor w/ no RG character whatsoever; very short soft slight metallic/tangy light grapey/fruity rather vapid/dull/insipid finish; no RG character at all & certainly no Friuli terroir; another vapid/vacuous/insipid vaguely fruity white dull as dishwater; overpriced at $14.00 (TW)
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A wee BloodyPulpit:
1. Been doing a bit of bottom feeding of late. Over the last month, trying a lot of Rieslings from Kokomans & have found some terrific values in the $10-$25 price range. About once a month, do some bottom feeding at TraderJoes and have mixed results, but usually avoid those from FredFranzia.
I was in need of a couple of whites for dinner and, since I was out in that area, stopped into the SantaFe TotalWines. Only go in there about twice a yr as yet to find anything of interest here. So I picked up these 3 whites, how could I go wrong. Well....I probably hit rock bottom on these. The wines were not bad nor flawed. They all had just a sort of vaguely fruity/grapey character were just some of the dullest wines I've ever encountered. Most of them went down the drain. Sometimes it makes no sense to waste your alcohol consumption on such wines. I probably should have also bought a btl of the ButterKnife Chard, but I just couldn't bring myself to do so. I suspect it would have been a bit more interesting, if a factory wine.
These wines were all Saranty Imprts, a label that I usually avoid like the plague. I've yet to find a wine from Saranty that I've thought worth drinking, even in the > $50/btl range.
As best I can tell, these wines are all TotalWines DirectImports exclusives. Which is a good place to keep them.
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by David M. Bueker » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:35 am

I think I would actually prefer to shop at a Trump branded store over a Total Wines outlet.
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by Paul Winalski » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:09 pm

A trio of Shemps!

Why would one bother with liu-dit Alsatian grapes just to produce a characterless wine? Or maybe this liu-dit is noted for the poor quality of its grapes?

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by TomHill » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:41 pm

Paul Winalski wrote:A trio of Shemps!

Why would one bother with liu-dit Alsatian grapes just to produce a characterless wine? Or maybe this liu-dit is noted for the poor quality of its grapes?
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Well, Paul... makes no sense to me either. This was one I had some hope for. Dashed on the shoals of Saranty Imports!!
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by Pat G » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:26 pm

Were any of the wines under TW's Winery Direct program? I've had mixed results with those so tend to stick to the least expensive when I go to TW. Haven't been in years, though, as nearest is about 35m away and LWS is fine.
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Yup...

by TomHill » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:11 pm

Pat G wrote:Were any of the wines under TW's Winery Direct program? I've had mixed results with those so tend to stick to the least expensive when I go to TW. Haven't been in years, though, as nearest is about 35m away and LWS is fine.

Yup, Pat... from the shelf talkers... nearly all were WnryDirect.
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by David M. Bueker » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:53 pm

The idea that Total Wine is going to find some undiscovered gem, or even an undiscovered rough stone in Alsace is a bit of a fantasy.
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True Dat...

by TomHill » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:03 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:The idea that Total Wine is going to find some undiscovered gem, or even an undiscovered rough stone in Alsace is a bit of a fantasy.


True Dat, David.... or at least absolute lunacy. But TW has lots of people who passionately believe they are the last word when it comes to wine. You don't find them coming around these wine boards, though.
The stores are very large and have a large "selection", which appeals to a lot of people. But I suspect the "selection" is done at the high corporate level.
The head wine guy, Tim, came up to me and asked if he could help & I told him I was looking for a Timorasso or a Pigato or Favorita from Italy. He gave me a blank look, retreated to his computer and informed me they had none. He then steered me to a Friuli PinotGrigio and assured me it was even better than those wines. Plus it was a "Winery Direct" so riduculously underpriced for a PG. I effusively thanked him for his help.
I put up my blistering review on Yelp and it was pulled down within 30 minutes.
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by Jenise » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:48 pm

We don't have a TW where I live but I've stopped in when in the Seattle area 100 miles south of here where I found gems not usually seen at retail like Rochioli and Bevan. But those exist in a sea of winery-direct plonk. No substitute for that great local wine store, but 1000% better than BevMo.
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Re: WTN: Bottom Feeding @ Total Wines...(short/boring)

by Pat G » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:23 pm

Jenise wrote:We don't have a TW where I live but I've stopped in when in the Seattle area 100 miles south of here where I found gems not usually seen at retail like Rochioli and Bevan. But those exist in a sea of winery-direct plonk. No substitute for that great local wine store, but 1000% better than BevMo.

Completely agree, Jenise. If we ever get an in-county TW BevMo will be in a world of hurt. We were supposed to get one this year but given CV19 don't know if their expansion plans are on hold.

Just yesterday my SIL mentioned that she's searching for a "perfect Rose'". I asked some specifics on what she's seeking. She's in Denver. They have a TW so I did a mock-up list for her to consider. She thinks that every wine I select or recommend for her is well-suited for her palate. It was a good project for part of the afternoon on a hot day when the brain does not function well on heavier thinking.

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