Peter May
Pinotage Advocate
3905
Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am
Snorbens, England
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
34943
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
34943
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Pat G wrote:As far as the wine, I currently have it planned for 2024. Label lists about 2/3 Tempranillo, followed by Cab Sauv then Merlot, then etc. Acquired for <$30.
Your backstory info is quite helpful.
Peter May wrote:Hi Stat
I note you don't like 'unwanted critics' but are OK with constructive criticism - I don't know how you'll take this - hopefully as the latter or just as a comment
On your 10 useful conclusions and observations, I struggled with No. 3
A good ripe Rioja is a serious quality wine, which has nothing to do with 90% of supermarket wines from the same production region. Miracles do not happen here either. Don’t be fooled with the wine labeled Rioja Gran Reserva you find on the shelf in the supermarket. It doesn’t guarantee the quality and enjoyment of the contents of such a bottle.
because it doesn't follow from your tasting. I can't see that any of the wines you had disappointed or came from a supermarket.
The last sentence begs the question, well what does?
And do you mean all supermarkets all over the world? I don't know the supermarkets in Rioja but might they have good Riojas? Although you do say that 10% of supermarket Rioja's are 'serious quality wine'. And does your blast against supermarkets automatically mean that Rioja in any shop that isn't a supermarket is a 'serious quality wine'?
I suggests an alternative wording along the lines of:
The words Crianza, Reserva and Gran Reserva on a bottle of or Rioja guarantees only the manner and how long wine has been aged. It doesn’t guarantee the quality and enjoyment of the contents of such a bottle.
That may be followed by cost or the producer's name being a better guide.
And for your next article, how about a blind tasting of the same vintages of Grans Reservas bought from supermarkets against your choice of Gran Reservas ?
stas.medvedev wrote:And I accept the challenge of blind tasting hand picked GR vs supermarket ones.
Tim York wrote:It's a pity that Victor de la Serna no longer lurks round here. He might have some interesting observations on Stas' note. IIRC he postulated some years ago that good "modern" style Rioja would converge in taste profile with good "traditional" after a decent period of ageing. With a longer track record nowadays it would be fascinating to know if that prediction is confirmed. My own experience of "modern" is too thin to comment other than that I loved the showing of several 90s vintages from Contino (supposedly on the modern side) at around 15 years of age.
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