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Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:26 pm

Hi All,

We're lucky enough to be going on a trip along the Danube, then to Berlin, so I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations, especially for wine shops in Berlin. I would like to load up at our final destination on German (and Austrian, Polish, etc. if possible) wines.

If anyone has anything to add for Budapest, Bratislava, Vienna, Passau, or Regensburg, that's of course welcome. Rahsaan, David, others?

Thanks.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by Rahsaan » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:26 pm

Those are a lot of destinations!

The best wine shop in Berlin is unquestionably Wine and Glass. Large selection. Top wines.
https://shop.weinundglas.com/

I used to like https://www.wineandwaters.de/ but they seem to have taken a different more commercial turn recently.

Lots of other good shops depending on the neighborhood. One of my favorites is Heimat Wein (https://www.heimatwein.com/), largely because the owner and I share similar tastes and a love of the Saar. He has a nice selection of artisanal producers, but unfortunately the website doesn't list all of them.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:47 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Those are a lot of destinations!

The best wine shop in Berlin is unquestionably Wine and Glass. Large selection. Top wines.
https://shop.weinundglas.com/

I used to like https://www.wineandwaters.de/ but they seem to have taken a different more commercial turn recently.

Lots of other good shops depending on the neighborhood. One of my favorites is Heimat Wein (https://www.heimatwein.com/), largely because the owner and I share similar tastes and a love of the Saar. He has a nice selection of artisanal producers, but unfortunately the website doesn't list all of them.


That is super helpful, thanks. We are staying by Alexanderplatz and Hackescher Markt, but will have 8 days so certainly hope to explore various parts of the city. It is a lot of destinations, the first part is a cruise. I am somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer number of destinations, combined with not knowing where the morning tours will take us, but I'm sure we will see a lot of neat stuff.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by Rahsaan » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:48 am

wnissen wrote: We are staying by Alexanderplatz and Hackescher Markt...


If you had been there in earlier years you could have gone to Maxim Bar a vins up the block for a nice dose of natural wines, but unfortunately it is closed.

However, I'm sure you know about Weinbar Rutz and Cordo (formerly Cordobar) for good food and good lists, not too far from you.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:44 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
wnissen wrote: We are staying by Alexanderplatz and Hackescher Markt...


If you had been there in earlier years you could have gone to Maxim Bar a vins up the block for a nice dose of natural wines, but unfortunately it is closed.

However, I'm sure you know about Weinbar Rutz and Cordo (formerly Cordobar) for good food and good lists, not too far from you.


Rick Steves recommended Cordo, but not Weinbar Rutz, which does seem to have an innovative menu. I'm mainly going off Steves' recommendations for places near his walking tours, as well as Tripadvisor forums, so any geek recs are welcome. I didn't realize Michelin reviewed Berlin, but I will take a look there as well. We will have my tween son with us, so are restricted somewhat in how much truly fine dining we can take in, but he can certainly handle a lunch.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by Peter May » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:36 am

wnissen wrote:Hi All,

trip along the Danube, then to Berlin


Is this a river cruise? I've done several along that route. If so, check your itinerary as you might be visiting wineries along the way, and most river cruise lines allow you to bring wine on board and consume it - and they'll gladly open your bottle and meal times - no corkage.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:35 pm

Peter May wrote:
wnissen wrote:Hi All,

trip along the Danube, then to Berlin


Is this a river cruise? I've done several along that route. If so, check your itinerary as you might be visiting wineries along the way, and most river cruise lines allow you to bring wine on board and consume it - and they'll gladly open your bottle and meal times - no corkage.


Yep, you got it. That's an excellent idea, I'm sure we will find at least a few bottles from Hungary that would make good drinking on the ship. What line(s) did you use?
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:42 pm

Rahsaan wrote:The best wine shop in Berlin is unquestionably Wine and Glass. Large selection. Top wines.
https://shop.weinundglas.com/

To follow up, I went there for all of my purchases. The formidable Alice put together a very nice case for me, sticking nearly to my budget. It's weird to go into a shop like that and see that they only stock absolute first tier producers, at least the ones I knew about. For the record, I got:
2013 Frank John Riesling Brut 41 Pfalz
2013 Peter Jakob Kühn Riesling Sekt Brut Rheingau
2015 Rudolf Fürst Pinot Noir Rosé Mousseux Brut Franken
2018 Egon Müller Riesling QbA Scharzhof Mosel Saar Ruwer
2017 A. Christmann Konigsbacher Idig Riesling Großes Gewächs Pfalz
2015 Dönnhoff Schloßböckelheimer Felsenberg Riesling Spätlese
2016 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spätlese #10 Mosel Saar Ruwer
2016 Schloss Lieser Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Mosel Saar Ruwer
2009 Joh. Jos. Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel Mosel Saar Ruwer
2013 Weingut Krone Assmannshäuser Spätburgunder Rheingau
2013 Knipser Kalkmergel Spätburgunder Rheingau
2015 Deutzerhof Spätburgunder "Caspar C." Ahr
It's interesting that, with the exception of a couple that appear to be mainly sold at the cellar door, the prices are generally better than the Cellartracker averages, which I wouldn't expect for a high-service place like this. Thanks, Rahsaan!
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by Rahsaan » Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:54 pm

Nice work. You have some fun drinking ahead of (or behind) you!
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:47 pm

That looks like a great list. Way to go! Rahsaan helps out again eh.
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Re: Berlin or Danube wine shops?

by wnissen » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:02 am

Oh, I haven't opened anything yet. I don't necessarily believe in long-term travel shock but there's also no reason to jump in, either. Still, I'm sure there will be plenty to enjoy.
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