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by Jeff Yeast » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:38 am

Leslie and I are in the beginning stages of planning a trip to South Africa. There are many things we want to see and experience while there, most notably the wine country. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience in travel to SA from the US, and any recommendations on wineries to visit. Also, in doing some quick price-checking, average airfare from the US to either Cape Town or Johannesburg looks to be around 2K per person. Has anyone obtained considerably cheaper tickets?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Stellenbosch

by Bruce K » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:37 am

I have no answers, but thanks for asking, Jeff. My family plans to travel to South Africa this summer (we have friends we'll be visiting who moved to Pretoria, though we also plan to spend some time in Cape Town), so I look forward to whatever responses you get.
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by Bob Ross » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:02 pm

Jeff, we visited Botswana and South Africa a year ago -- wine wasn't the theme of the trip, but of course I did a bit of research and we did do a little wine touring. Here are a number of tips I got from folks on the Purple Pages -- unfortunately the articles are only to the subscriber pages.

First, buy the latest edition of the Platter Guide as it has comprehensive information on everything to do with the South African wine scene, details of all the wineries/wine farms, opening times, telephone numbers, email addresses and maps to help you find them. It's great browsing material -- and will lead you to some wonderful websites as well. The current edition is also available for electronic subscription, with older editions free (but needing registration): http://www.platteronline.com/home/

If you are driving yourself we learned it is difficult to find good road maps or atlases in South Africa, so it is well worth purchasing one before travelling. [I love maps so even though we hired a driver, I searched vainly for a good set of maps in Capetown. Globetrotter/Rand McNally is an excellent choice -- I got my copy on my return from Amazon UK.

If not hiring a vehicle, there are several companies running winelands excursions from Cape Town and surrounds. Have a look at http://www.tourismcapetown.co.za/ or search the web for more details. We found a really great guide who didn't know beans about wine, but knew lots about everything else. And Stellenbosch is only an hour or so from Capetown, and has a great webpage at http://www.stellenbosch.org.za/

One of the Purples wrote: The guest suites at La Petite Ferme in Franschhoek - a handful of beautiful villas set at the top of one of their (I think) Sauvignon Blanc vineyards. Amazing views and true peace and tranquillity! The owners are also very welcoming with Mark Dendy Smith happy to give us a personal tasting in his cellars (from tank and cask).

We ate here with our guide -- he was as welcomed as we were -- and had a wonderful afternoon -- fantastic views, excellent food, great staff, fairly good wines. Highly recommended.

I would recommend that you focus on the smaller wineries -- the bigger ones are very well organized, but certainly on the weekends the wine route is so close to Cape Town that there are lots of visitors and tour buses arrive unexpectedly. My son and I tried a couple of smaller wineries while Janet and Robin shopped -- we met the winemakers at both places and learned a great deal about the area. Especially true if you've taken wine tours at other wineries.

Consider a stop at Delheim in Stellenbosch. The wines weren't especially good, but the view was absolutely breathtaking.

Here are a few restaurant suggestions from the Purples; we had a simple lunch at the first and explored the museum and house -- very interesting:

Constantia Uitsig
Spaansgemacht Road
Constantia
Tel: (021) 794-6500
http://www.constantiauitsig.co.za/const ... itsig.html

La Colombe
Co-located at Constantia Uitsig
Constantia
tel. (021) 794-2390

Haute Cabriere
Pass Road
Franschoek
Tel: (021) 876-3688

Bosman's Restaurant at La Grande Roche
Plantasie Street
Paarl
Tel: (021) 863-2727
Excellent (albeit stuffy) service and a long wine list of very old bottles.

Wijnhuis
Corner of Church & Andringa Street
Stellenbosch
Tel: (021) 887-5844
More casual than the others. An absolute must for wine fans and a good place to find elusive John Platter-starred wines.

One frequent Purple traveller to South Africa wrote:

I never plan to visit more than two wineries a day as the winemakers tend to be a very hospitable bunch and if they see you are enthusiastic, the last thing you want to be doing is having to cut a visit short to rush off to another vineyard, also the scenery in the winelands is so stunning you will find plenty of distractions as well as the many excellent restaurants already mentioned.

Bear in mind many of the smaller more interesting vineyards are family-run affairs that will be closed at the weekend, although if you call or email in advance I have found them to be very accommodating. Make sure to drive down to Hermanus and visit Bouchard Finlayson and Hamilton Russell, both making some of the best Pinot Noir and Chardonnay in SA at the moment. Bouchard Finlayson also make a wine called the Hannibal, a most unusual blend of Italian varietals plus Pinot Noir and a little Mourvèdre which is utterly delicious! Whilst in Hermanus you should be able to see the Right Whales in December, a magnificent sight, check with the locals if they are in the bay at the time. On the way back towards Cape Town on the N2, if you have time, check what’s on at Paul Cluver wines, as they have many themed events including wine and food matching with local chefs and evening entertainment in their open air amphitheatre.


I spoke with a number of winelovers during my trip to South Africa, and they all echoed the above general advice -- I don't know any of the specific wines or wineries but include them for your possible interest.

One surprising thing: you can't find the better South African wines in Capetown -- and only rarely from the libraries of the wineries. We were told consistently that South Africans won't buy the top wines at the prices asked, and that they are exported primarily to England and to a lesser extent to the States. I've dealt with a importer who specializes in importing South African wines and I'll post the name here if interested. For goodness sakes, don't wait and buy wine at the airport -- prices are high and selection limited.

Some more Purple info:

Andras Salamon, Johannesburg:

Regarding Jon Hicke's list of restaurants, La Colombe recently placed 28th, and La Quartier Francais in Franschhoek placed 38th in the 2006 list of the world's 50 best restaurants http://www.theworlds50best.com/bestlist.aspx (whatever that's worth).

http://www.eatout.co.za/EatOut/Eat_Index/ is a reliable list of SA restaurants that is published once a year as a glossy format booklet, though it does omit some that have chosen not to be listed (listing probably requires a fee, I'm not sure). WINE magazine's restaurant reviews database is less comprehensive but they still do cover most of the best, have more detailed reviews, and seem to be completely independent.



And more:

For less serious food, the Moyo chain of restaurants offers a fun African experience in some great outdoors settings.
http://www.moyo.co.za/

The Bukhara chain is also good, with a nice local twist on Indian food. http://www.bukhara.com/

In Stellenbosch it is worth visiting Tokara for its breathtaking views and architecture, and a day trip to Vergelegen makes a nice outing. Otherwise it is definitely worth focusing on smaller producers where one often can chat with the winemaker or owner.


Tokara does have incredible views.

Finally, if you just can't resist bringing wine home -- as I couldn't :) -- this turned out to be excellent advice:

Buying wine is perhaps best done at retailers, since cellar door prices are not usually lower than those of reputable retailers, and a mixed case is likely to be a lot more fun than a bunch of wines from one producer. http://www.wine.co.za/ and http://www.carolineswine.com/ are both good retailers with interesting selections.


Botswana was the trip of a lifetime, but we had a great time in South Africa -- let me know if you would like some non-wine related suggestions.

Regards, Bob
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Re: Stellenbosch

by Bruce K » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:51 pm

let me know if you would like some non-wine related suggestions.


Bob, I'm not Jeff, but I'd be very interested in them. And thanks for what you've already posted.
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Re: Stellenbosch

by Jeff Yeast » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:08 pm

Bob,

Thanks! This information is very helpful. Please do expand with any other non-wine-related travel info you may have. 8)
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by Bob Ross » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:48 pm

We flew into J'berg twice, once from Germany and once from Zambia, but only saw the airport. We spent three days in and around Cape Town. Here are my travel notes -- I didn't keep a full diary as I usually do -- the Botswana part of the trip just blew me away -- other worldly -- and I didn't want to let my usual practices intrude on the experience.

These notes were drafted on the way home -- we spent 14 hours laying over in Germany and I had plenty of time -- weather was lousy in early December.

Cape Town.

Dominated by Table Mountain. Several hiking trails up, all of them at least challenging for all but the very fit. Driving and taking the cable car up and back down takes one to two hours depending on crowds which can be very large. High winds closed the cable car on the day we drove up, but the views were worth the drive. We didn't have time to hike, but hiking would be very rewarding. ***

The Kirstenbosch gardens are superb -- only indigenous South African plants. Beautifully designed, really excellent sculptures, placed well. Excellent restaurant with some interesting SA wines. Varied topography, superb views from upper gardens. Lots of birds. ***

Cape Point is within the Cape Peninsula National Park. Well worth climbing to the lighthouse, and of course to go to the point where the two oceans meet. Baboons, Mountain Zebra, 250 species of animals and plants. Tidal ponds, beaches, restaurant a disappointment with good views but iffy food when we were there. Take a picnic. ***

Boulders Penguin Colony. Wooden walkways with a good museum. One hour -- spend some time at a little town -- Simon's Town -- and combine with a trip to or from Cape Point. Boulders Beach is excellent depending on season. ***

Victoria and Albert Waterfront. Dozens of shops, pubs and restaurants. We were very disappointed in the shopping -- didn't see anything in the shops of real interest. There's an above average aquarium and a couple of other museums, none of which are outstanding. ***

The best restaurant we tried in Cape Town was Balducci's on V&A Waterfront. http://www.restaurants.co.za/details.asp?resId=3296 Extensive wine list. They serve four or five different South African prawns which were excellent. Frankly, we were a bit disappointed with the food in South Africa, but we were spoiled by outstanding meals in the camps in Botswana and by the lunch I mentioned above in the wine country. **

Rhodes Memorial -- near Devil's Peak. Worthwhile for the views, otherwise a Victorian pile. Some interesting streets with beautiful houses, and can be tied to a trip to the gardens. Driving by from the highway is good enough for my money. *

Robben Island -- tremendous history and views. World Heritage Site. Excellent to understand the apartheid era. Need four hours including the ferry trip. ***

Township tour -- we toured Langa. One to two hours -- don't visit them alone, but hire one of the many tour companies. Essential to understand South Africa in my mind. ***+

World of Birds. 3000 birds in an excellent sanctuary. Breeding colonies. If you like birds, a must see. ***

Castle of Good Hope. Oldest building in South Africa, well preserved. Some excellent historical exhibits. **

Beaches. They look beautiful, but none of our group were beach folks. Lots of top flight choices. NA

Greenmarket Square. Craft market. Lots of junk, but the people are wonderful. There are a number of marekt -- Waterfront Market, Greenpoint at the Greenpoint Stadium parking lot -- a flea market. For us, go for local color -- and inexpensive souvenirs. *

There is an upscale government sponsored shop with crafts from all over South Africa. Interesting as a sort of modern day museum, but prices were out of sight. Can't remember the name, sorry. *

The Tygervalley Shopping Mall attracts thousands of people and is great for people watching. Very ornate structure. Worth stopping by to get a sense of middle class folks. **

David and Robin did a bit of bar and club hopping -- David reccos Po Na Na Bar on Heritage Square. Also there are some trendy bars on the Camps Bay strip they liked. Opium is a pretty good club in the Greenpoint area -- cigar bar attracted David. City center is a good starting point. NA.

We stayed at a hotel in V&A Waterfront -- ok, but modern and non-distinguished for our money. There is a very wide range -- I'd stay in the wine country, especially at the farm recommended above. We saw one of the rooms and the food was excellent. It appears that one can stay almost anywhere in Cape Town -- it was easy to get from one place to another. NA.

If we went back, we would take the Garden Route between Mossel Bay and Nature's Valley -- greenery and the Tsitsikamma Forest. The coastal route includes the towns of Mossel Bay, George, Wilderness, Sedgefield, Knysna and Plettenberg Bay and Nature's Valley. Other tourists reccoed it highly. NA.

We used the Eyewitness Travel Guide for South Africa -- excellent. We like this series very much because of the extensive photographs. Authors: Michael Brett, Brian Johnson-Barker, Marielle Renssen, Dorling-Kindersley. Features: Cape Town, Cape Winelands, Western Coastal Terrace, Southern Cape, Garden Route to Grahamstown, Wild Coast, Drakensberg, Midlands, Durban, Zululand, Gauteng, Sun City, Blyde River Canyon, Kruger, as well as South and North of the Orange.

Overall, we spent three days in and around Cape Town. I liked it much more than Janet did -- the scenery and history blew me away -- she thought it was a cultural desert. We have a good friend who has recently moved to Cape Town, and I am sure he would be happy to suggest things of local interest if you are interested in meeting/corresponding with him. Fair Warning: he's an artist, extremely self sufficient, and agrees completely with Janet. :)

Regards, Bob
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by Bruce K » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:21 am

Thanks for taking the time to put this together, Bob. I'm sure it will be very helpful for us during our Cape Town part of the trip.
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by Kyrstyn Kralovec » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:48 pm

We spent a few days in Stellenbosch in September and really enjoyed it. Can't help as to the airfare, since we used frequent flyer miles.

We stayed at the Villa Grand Guest house, run by a really hospitable guy named Niel (I loved the little glasses of port he'd leave by our bed each night, and the fresh flowers everywhere). Here's a link to the webpage:

http://www.villa-grande.com/villa-grande-cape-town.html

Although we never made it to any, I've heard wonderful things about some of the restaurants attached to various vineyards in Franschhoek from numerous people.

The Brut Sauvage at Cabriere Estate is definitely worth a try if you like really dry bubbly.

We ate at several really good restaurants in Cape Town, to include L'Aubergine, The Five Flies, and Willouby's (V&A Waterfront). I can honestly say that we were not disappointed by a single meal in Cape Town, and for the most part we were extremely impressed. The wait staff seems to know their wines pretty well, and are very enthusiastic to talk w/ their customers about them.

Have a great time - S. Africa was one of the most enjoyable places I've visited, and I hope to be able to return some day!
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by Peter May » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:58 pm

Jeff Yeast wrote:Leslie and I are in the beginning stages of planning a trip to South Africa. There are many things we want to see and experience while there, most notably the wine country. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience in travel to SA from the US, and any recommendations on wineries to visit. Also, in doing some quick price-checking, average airfare from the US to either Cape Town or Johannesburg looks to be around 2K per person. Has anyone obtained considerably cheaper tickets?

Thanks in advance!

Jeff


There are just too many wineries to visit them all. You have to prioritise a reason, such as the wine or the winery or the location or etc.

Before you do anything else, you must have Platters SA Wines. You can order the 2007 edition via http://www.cybercellar.co.za or maybe amazon, but even a fairly recent one will five you enough to start planning.

Essential is Groot Constantia for its history, the first wine estate making wine for 300+ years, good tour, good restaurants, OK wine.

Vergelegen for it stunning underground winery and wines.

Someone said Delheim. Thats MY favourite place in the entire world for lunch.

Viisting wineries easy. But start buyingand drinking SA wine now to get an idea.

Use http://www.wine.co.za diary to check whats happening while you are there -- book anythingyoufancy as soon as you can (disclosure - I write for wine.co.za)

Maybe not for Americans, but SA is a large country. The wine area is a very small comapct region at the very southern tip of the continent.
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by Peter May » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:03 pm

Some more thoughts.

You head your post Stellenbosch but mention fares to Johannesburg. Youdon't want to fly there, its a 1000 miles away and not a place for a casual visit.

The Cape winelands are compact, so it doesn't matter really where you stay. You can stay on wine farms -- last time we stayed on L'Avenir http://www.wine.co.za/Directory/Attract ... TIONID=208 estate which has some rooms around a swimming pool between the vineyards and wineryand we enjoyed walking through their vineyards in the evening. Quite a few wineries have accommodation.

If you are there at the end of the year (start of sumer in SA) then you may want to spend some days in Hermanus to view the whales. They come within metres of the shore, and you are guaranteed to see them. We stayed at The Marine Hotel http://www.marine-hermanus.co.za/ on the cliffs there and when I opened the curtains in the moring Inever jad to wait more than 3 minutes before seeing at least one whale. And Hamilton Russell Vineyards is just behind Hermanus,

Another thing is that virtually all restaurants welcome bring your own wines, which is great when you've been visiting wineries. I quite often read criticism of Cape restaurants wine lists for their poor choice. Well, yes, only those without the foresight to bring their own wine order from the winelist. Corkage is minimal, sometimes zero.
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by Jake Parrott » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:48 am

Here's some info on some of the farms whose wines TWG import into the States:

--Vriesenhof: (local phone 021 880 0284) just south of Stellenbosch, off of the R44 (the turnoff will
be signed either Vriesenhof or Paradyskloof, I forget which)
--Muratie (local phone 021 865 2330): just north of town, also just off the R44, I believe. It is right next to Delheim, which might show up on a few more maps.

--Morgenster: (phone 021 852-1738) near Somerset West. They also make a scrumptious olive oil. Next door to Morgenster is Vergelegen (local phone 021 847-1334)--not one of our farms, but one of the great, historic farms and makers of a killer
sauvignon blanc.

Hartenberg (021 865-2541)--they do a nice little lunch as well
Vergenoegd (021 843-3248)
Avondale (021 863-1976) in Paarl
Louisvale (021 865-2422)

We also are just starting to represent a farm in Stanford, about two hours east of Stellenbosch. It's called Springfontein. They have three lovely cottages to stay in, as well. If you want to go not-quite-as-far-east along the south coast, we stayed one night at the Mosselberg Lodge in Hermanus, which is unbelievably nice.

If you decide that you want to ship some wine purchases back, the best service we've found down there is WAXAir. The cost is about US$100/case (which is a very good price and a reasonable punt if you find some older vintages, etc) and the procedure is that you personally clear the freight at the airport. The owner, Eddie Buitenbos, is a friend of ours and the phone number is 082 847 9073.

Have fun in the Cape!
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by Peter May » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:17 am

Muratie is worth a visit - very old cellars. It is on teh same road as Delheim, the road goes through middle of Muratie and terminates at Delheim. The winery turning is well signposted on the R44, look for the wine route sign for Delheim and Muratie.
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by Jake Parrott » Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:00 am

And if you want to see some really old-school winemaking, head to Durbanville in Cape Town's northern suburbs to Altydgedacht.
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