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Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
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Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Auckland, New Zealand
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Thomas wrote:Label requirements was one among a few reasons that got me to get out of commercial winemaking.
Steve Slatcher
Wine guru
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:51 am
Manchester, England
steve.slatcher wrote:Today I saw an Australian label that said something like "Egg and nuts used, and traces may remain". Was this serious? What might one use nuts for in winemaking?
Maria Samms
Picky Eater Pleaser
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:42 pm
Morristown, NJ
Randy R wrote:Thomas wrote:Added tannins that have been derived from nut trees.
And let's face it Thomas et al, where there is wine, the nuts can't be too far away.
Carl Eppig (Middleton, NH wrote:The first is a warning (to be determined by each winery) on allergens used in fining such as isinglass, egg whites, and milk products. The fact that all these pass through the wine without becoming part of it does not matter because governing legislation (Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2004) talks about any product that COMES INTO CONTACT with an allergen being so labeled.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Maria Samms wrote:I have a son who is allergic to many, many things
Carl Eppig (Middleton, NH wrote:Maria Samms wrote:I have a son who is allergic to many, many things
Maria, I feel sorry for you as we had to cook around a lot of allergies with our four daughters as they were growing up One was allergic to wheat, corn, rice, eggs, and more. As a child I was allergic to pepper, turkey, rice, and GRAPES! Fortunately the kids and I grew out of most of them as our allergist said we could. Incidentally our allergist was my father.
Carl Eppig (Middleton, NH wrote:Maria Samms wrote:I have a son who is allergic to many, many things
Maria, I feel sorry for you as we had to cook around a lot of allergies with our four daughters as they were growing up One was allergic to wheat, corn, rice, eggs, and more. As a child I was allergic to pepper, turkey, rice, and GRAPES! Fortunately the kids and I grew out of most of them as our allergist said we could. Incidentally our allergist was my father.
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Thomas wrote:So Carl, have you changed your "sky is falling" position on the label listing potential allergens?
Maria Samms
Picky Eater Pleaser
1272
Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:42 pm
Morristown, NJ
Carl Eppig (Middleton, NH wrote:
Maria, I feel sorry for you as we had to cook around a lot of allergies with our four daughters as they were growing up One was allergic to wheat, corn, rice, eggs, and more. As a child I was allergic to pepper, turkey, rice, and GRAPES! Fortunately the kids and I grew out of most of them as our allergist said we could. Incidentally our allergist was my father.
Mark Lipton wrote:
Yup, same here, Carl. I commonly tell people that I was allergic to anything that "walked, crawled or slithered" when I was a kid (a line shamelessly purloined from a Mad Magazine "Papillon" parody): I had allergies to corn, rice, oats, nuts, beans, peanuts, pineapple, strawberries, chocolate, cats, dogs, duck down. Spring and Fall pollens. After a decade of allergy shots (now thought to be next to useless) I outgrew them at age 16 or so. Then, at age 40, I had a sudden relapse that faded away after a year or two.
Mark Lipton
Maria Samms wrote:Carl Eppig (Middleton, NH wrote:
Maria, I feel sorry for you as we had to cook around a lot of allergies with our four daughters as they were growing up One was allergic to wheat, corn, rice, eggs, and more. As a child I was allergic to pepper, turkey, rice, and GRAPES! Fortunately the kids and I grew out of most of them as our allergist said we could. Incidentally our allergist was my father.Mark Lipton wrote:
Yup, same here, Carl. I commonly tell people that I was allergic to anything that "walked, crawled or slithered" when I was a kid (a line shamelessly purloined from a Mad Magazine "Papillon" parody): I had allergies to corn, rice, oats, nuts, beans, peanuts, pineapple, strawberries, chocolate, cats, dogs, duck down. Spring and Fall pollens. After a decade of allergy shots (now thought to be next to useless) I outgrew them at age 16 or so. Then, at age 40, I had a sudden relapse that faded away after a year or two.
Mark Lipton
Wow guys! That must have been so tough! You are so lucky Carl, that your Dad is an allergist. I am so happy to hear that you all have outgrown them. Mark - do you still have seasonal/animal allergies?
My son is allergic to eggs, dairy, wheat, peanuts, sesame seeds, all raw fruits and veggies (even bananas!), and lots of other things that I don't even know about. It is really tough...especially since he gets hives if any of those things even touch his skin! I have a daughter as well and fortunately, she is not allergic to anything. But mealtime around here is not fun at all.
Like you guys, I am hoping he outgrows his allergies (or at least the wheat one...poor kid can't even play with playdough because it has wheat in it!).
Luckily, he can have grape juice...since it's been pasturized. He is also ok with distilled white vineagar.
It's interesting to hear about others who had allergies when they were young...I thought it was something pretty recent...since a lot of kids I know are allergic to nuts/peanuts now. I didn't think anyone back in my day was allergic to anything...guess I just never heard about it.
Anyway, I hope the new labels don't cause too many problems for the wine companies.
Maria Samms
Picky Eater Pleaser
1272
Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:42 pm
Morristown, NJ
Thomas wrote:When it comes to food, I'd rather the government limit over-processing first, then think about the result of serving the public pure and natural foods. Instead, the govt allows over-processing and then tries to remove itself from responsibility by forcing labels to "inform" the public.
Thomas wrote:As for wine, I don't see why a winemaker should be allowed or need to use nut tannins to give the wine what it can't offer on its own.
Maria Samms
Picky Eater Pleaser
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:42 pm
Morristown, NJ
Thomas wrote: Maria,
You might be interested in knowing that one of my last break-outs, when I was about 30, was treated in Morristown hospital's emergency room. I lived back then first in Chester and then in Long Valley...worked for the Morristown Daily Record (tres briefly).
Thomas wrote:Anyway, hives can be life threatening if they attack the head and tongue. That's what that ana-something or other shock is all about with things like shell fish. Adrenaline fast.
Thomas wrote:I always carried antihistamine tabs with me--not over the counter stuff either. It is certain that removing chemistry and processed foods from my diet went a long way toward fixing things for me. Funny thing is that people often outgrow these kinds of allergies. Maybe the body adapts to whatever threat it used to perceive.
Thomas wrote:I'm right now going through an allergy madness with my standard poodle. He's off commercial dog food and getting better and better each week.
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