David M. Bueker wrote:Tom - a question for your learned palate: how would you compare/contrast the Carlisle style versus Bedrock?
Hmmmmm...good question, David. Not sure I have a good answer but, being a LosAlamos guy...I'll make something up.
Maybe after tonight's tasting..I'll have a better idea.
I lump Bedrock/Carlisle/LimerickLane together in style. The LL's are generally bigger/riper than the other two.
Often a bit over the top, perhaps..but not as bad as some of that genre. The Bedrocks tend to be the more restrained
of that three, a bit more reined in and not as ripe, maybe a bit more expressive of the vnyd source. A bit more old-timey.
The Carlisles lie in the middle. A bit riper than the Bedrocks, perhaps, though also expressive of their vnyd source.
Maybe the Carlisles are more expressive of a particular winemaking style...Mike's style..more identifiable as Carlisle.
Generalizations, of course. And, of course, we know that Carlisle makes world-class Gruner!!
Tom
An Incestuous Tasting of Reds March 15, 2017
1. Once&Future Mataro OakleyRdVnyd/ContraCostaCnty (14.01%; Picked: 8/22/2015; 25% new Fr.oak; 115 cs; pH: 3.59,
TA: 0.55; Grower: Tom del Barba) 2015: $37.00
2. Bedrock EvangelhoVnyd Heritage ContraCostaCnty RW (Plntd 1890's; Own rooted; Tended by Evangelho Family;
14.1%) 2015: $30.00
3. Bedrock EvangelhoVnyd Heritage ContraCostaCnty RW (14.1%; Dry farmed; Plntd in 1890's; Zin/Carignane/
Mataro/Palomino/AlicanteBouschet/Mission) 2014: $30.50
4. Bedrock EvangelhoVnydHeritage/CCCnty (14.1%; Planted in 1890's; Carignane/Zin/Mourv) 2013: $31.00
5. Bedrock EvangelhoVnyd Heritage ContraCostaCnty RW (14.2%; Drk: 10/13-10/2000: MTP) 2012: $30.00
6. Once&Future Zin BedrockVnyd/SonomaVlly (14.7%; 127 yr old vines; Picked: 8/21/2015; 30% new Fr.oak; 150 cs;
pH: 3.74, TA: 0.61; Grower: Morgan Twain-Peterson) 2015: $44.00
7. Turley Zin BedrockVnyd/SonomaVlly/SonomaCnty (15.8%) 2014: $38.00
8. Carlisle Zin BedrockVnyd/SonomaVlly/SonomaCnty (15.5%; Plntd: 1888; + PetiteSirah/AlicanteBouchet; 240 cs)
2013: $43.75
9. Bedrock Zin CarlisleVnyd/RRV/SonomaCnty (14.9%; Plntd: 1927; PellettiVnyd) 2014: $38.50
10. Carlisle Zin CarlisleVnyd/RRV/SonomaCnty (15.0%; Plntd: 1927 by AlcidePellitti; +PS/GrandNoir/AlicanteBouschet/
Tempranillo/Peloursin; 680 cs) 2014: $44.70
11. Bedrock Zin CarlisleVnyd/RRV/SonomaCnty (Plntd in 1927; Tended by Mike&Kendall Officer; 14.9%) 2015: $39.00
12. Carlisle Zin CarlisleVnyd/RRV/SonomaCnty (15.3%; Plntd: 1927 by AlcidePelletti; + PetiteSirah/GrandNoir/
AlicanteBouschet/Tempranillo/Peloursin; 700 cs) 2013: $44.25