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WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by Dale Williams » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:02 pm

I was looking for a particular wine, and found a case of mixed stuff that I should have taken home a while ago, mixed a few into this week’s lineup.

With flounder, couscous, & spinach, the 2005 Pernot Bourgogne Blanc. Funny, having had quite a few PremOxed village and 1er wine from mid-2000s to have a Bourgogne with life to it. Pear, lemon, and a little hazelnut, good ripeness and good acids. It’s maybe fading on the finish, but could pass for a mature Puligny. B+

2002 Huet "Le Haut Lieu" Demi-sec Vouvray (375 ml), Oxidized. Damn. NR

With lamb leg, barley, & salad, the 2004 Groffier Bourgogne rouge. Only a hint of the greenie meanies, but kirschy and a little tired. C+/B-

2013 Knoll Ried Pfaffenberg Steiner Riesling Kabinett
Stony, citrus and apple, a little severe at first, opens with air and I enjoy. B+/B

With roast chicken, green beans, mushrooms, couscous, the 2002 de Montille Bourgogne rouge. Last de Montille I bought for a while due to 9/11 comments. Cherries, raspberries, a little smoke. Nice balance. Drink up, and enjoy. B+

Some friends invited me to dinner, their dog was confused as I arrived houndless. I had brought crab salad canapes, they made Tuscan swordfish, bok choy, & salad.

2013 Domaine de l’Harmas Cotes du Rhone
Raspberry, strawberry, clean and straightforward. B/B-

2014 Pepiere “Clisson” Muscadet
Classic full leesy Clisson style, zippy enough for the crab but with enough body for the swordfish - wet stones, citrus, a little herb. B+/A-

1993 Bonneau du Martray Corton-Charlemagne

I've had three bottles from same lot. One was what I look for in mature white Burg, lovely and complex -if maybe a bit ripe (B+). Another at a steakhouse was oxidized and advanced. This didn't show oxidation but didn't feel as lively as the first bottle- white fruit, a little nutty, a bit stolid on palate. B-

2006 Havens Black and Blue
Sturdy, still some slightly rough tannin, big dark fruit, cassis and black plum, fairly low acid. B-

Saturday I met friends at Aberdeen for a Chinese New Year dinner:
Pork shu mai, Shrimp dumplings, Eggplant stuffed with shrimp, Jalapeno stuffed with shrimp,
seafood/tofu soup, squid with scallions, ginger/scallion lobster, soft shell crab with black bean sauce, ginger/garlic chicken, rice with shrimp and vegetables.
Mostly Champagne

1999 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne Rose
I was very happy with way this showed. Strawberry and cherry, brioche, and orange zest. Full, a great foil for the food, some chalk and flowers on nose as it gets air. A-/A

1995 Bruno Paillard “Nec Plus Ultra” Champagne
I thought this oxidative and tired at first, but liked better on second go round. Heavy nutty note, green apple, bread. I liked better with air but agreed with Cathleen it didn’t deserve its hefty pricetag. B

1998 Gosset “Celebris” Champagne
I had trouble getting a handle on this. There was something weirdly cheesey on nose at first, then it cleaned up, then it started tasting oxidized. Never loved, at its best a B. Not sure a correct bottle.

1995 Ch. Loudenne (Medoc)
Some sturdy tannin, but soft ripe plummy fruit, a very pleasant claret. B/B+

Sunday I picked up Betsy and violinist at LaGuardia, went home, and then headed to her sister’s for a SuperBowl party. Chili with fixings, calamari with chipotle mayo, gauc, salad, cheeses, etc.

2015 Van Volxem Alte Reben Riesling
Minerally, tart, smoke, white peach. B+

2013 Losen-Bockstanz Riesling Kabinett
sweet , peachy, simple. B-

2005 Edmunds St John Bassetti Syrah
Betsy’s first night back since we lost the hound, so I opened one of Lucy’s traditional birthday wines (the other is Mulderbosch Faithful Hound) for a toast to departed friends. Lovely showing- rich dark berry fruit, smoke, a little coffee, and just a hint of an animal note. Young but so tasty. A-

No wines scheduled this week as we try to deal with a few extra holiday pounds. :(

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

edited to add level to Huet
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by David M. Bueker » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:55 pm

Nice selections. Where are you sourcing Van Volxem?

P.S. When I was typing Van Volxem on my phone just now it tried to alter it to Voldemort.
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by Patrick Martin » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:34 pm

Sorry to hear about the departed hound.

Glad to hear about the 05 Bassetti, I have 2-3 in the cellar along with a few 05 W-F and Parmalee Hill.
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by Dale Williams » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:58 pm

There are many wines more deserving of a Voldemort status!
Got from GrapesTWC (Posner). Brought in by Grand Cru Selections. I think this was $20 and a Kabinett was $18-19.
Patrick, thanks. I have the WF, but don't think I have the Parmalee.
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by David M. Bueker » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:19 pm

Dale,

Especially considering Steve's 2017 library release, it may be time to redo that amazing ESJ tasting we did at John Gilman's place 7 years ago.
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by Dale Williams » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:04 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:
Especially considering Steve's 2017 library release


tell me more!
Would definitely be fun to do another ESJ dinner/lunch
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by Patrick Martin » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:00 pm

I'd be interested in a library release opportunity from ESJ too.
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by Jenise » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:18 pm

Bassetti? How perfect. {hugs}
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by David M. Bueker » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:18 pm

E-mail Steve from his website. He is selling library wines to finance his next album.
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by Dale Williams » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:07 am

right after I posted JG sent me the list - we placed an order together. I've got some old friends coming, plus a couple I've never tried.
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by David M. Bueker » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:01 pm

Me too. Should be a lot of fun.

All of mine are Mourvèdre or Cotes Sauvages bottlings.
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by Rahsaan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:17 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:All of mine are Mourvèdre or Cotes Sauvages bottlings.


Good for you. I thought about branching out, but have such limited space that I had to focus on the syrah classics (Bassetti and Durell). Looking forward to it.
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by David M. Bueker » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:50 pm

I have no shortage of ESJ Syrah, and frankly balked at the Durrell prices.
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by Rahsaan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:21 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:...balked at the Durrell prices.


Yes, not cheap. But Steve has not exactly been aggressive with his pricing over the years, so I went for a few bottles. Also because I don't have any Durells and figured this might be my last shot!
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by Dale Williams » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:15 pm

So David is to blame for my being shut out for '93 CSauvages and '94 Mourvedre!
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by David M. Bueker » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:43 am

Yes I am.

Well, actually Steve is, as I asked him to mix me up a case of Mourvèdre and Cotes Sauvages.
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by Patrick Martin » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:20 pm

Dale, can you email me this list? I asked on the ESJ website, but I haven't heard back...
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Re: WTN: Burgs, Champagnes, Bassetti, Rieslings, more

by SteveEdmunds » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:05 am

Patrick; pm me with your email, I'll send you the list. Don't know why I haven't received your email.
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