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WTN: Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock..(long/boring)

by TomHill » Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:54 pm

Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock (6/14)

I've followed JoelPeterson from (before) the very start. I first met him on a visit to JoeSwan in the
early-mid '70's. There was a guy in the back topping up some barrels & Joe introduced us briefly. He was
just a cellar worker and the name didn't register w/ me. Then, again in '75, I was visiting PhilReich at
a wine shop he ran in the Financial District of TheCite and Joel was there. Phil introduced us and related
that Joel would be opening a winery (Ravenswood) specializing in Zinfandel. I asked Joel if he would put
me on his e-mail list & he gave me this puzzled look..."What's e-mail???" I was gonna whip out my iPhone
& show him....but I'd left it in the car, alas. Since then, over the yrs, we've crossed paths any number
of times at various events.
When Joel had started up his latest venture, Once & Future Wine, I, of course, immediately signed
on-board. Since I hadn't seen him in a number of yrs, I suggested we get together for lunch on this trip.
Fortunately, he was in town on this day, so we agreed to meet. Just afore I departed, Joel volunteered to
make us lunch, taste a few wines, walk a bit of Bedrock, and catch up aside the lake on the Bedrock vnyd.
As we pulled into the vnyd, a lady came out of her office, greeted us, and told us she'd let Joel
know we'd arrived. When he pulled up & got out, he introduced us to "Diane", the lady who farms Bedrock and
owns SunbreakVnydServices, that operates out of the Bedrock vnyd. I asked the last name and she said
Diane Kenworthy. "Holy $hit..I know you". I had visited her Dad, John Kenworthy, at his wnry in the
ShenandoahVlly around 1980 and saw her there. Talk about a small world.
When Constellation bought Ravenswood in 2001, they also bought the entire Ravenswood wine library.
It was eventually moved to their larger facility outside Sonoma to make space. Again, running out
of space, Constellation moved it to their facility in Lodi. Again, deciding the Ravenswood library
was wasting perfectly good space, they decided to free up the space by sending all these "old" wines
off to the crusher. Catching wind of this, Joel asked them how much that bonehead move would cost
Constellation and that he'd match that price, plus pick up the wines himself. So he came to acquire
several hundred cases of old Ravenswoods and has slowly been working his way thru this stash. Since
I'd followed Ravenswood from the very start, he thought I might enjoy tasting some of these oldies.
Before sitting down to taste, we took a short walk around Bedrock vnyd. Of particular interest to me
was this small experimental block of vines. One of the grapes they have planted is Mollard. This is
a grape indigenous to the HautAlpes, thought to come from GouaisBlanc, mistakingly referenced as another
name for Carignane in one source. It had pretty much died out after phylloxera. Marc Allemand and
ENTAV are making an effort to revive the grape. Another grape is Castets, a variety from the SW of
France that is nearly extinct there. Apparently it was once grown in Bdx as well. This experimental
block, right down next to HookerCreek, is being farmed quite differently. Instead of tilling the cover
crop back into the soil, the crop is merely knocked back/bent over. Joel relates that this method
preserves more of the organic material for the soil. Not quite sure how the organic material is returned
to the soil using this technique, though.

So, sitting next to the Bedrock "lake" (a pond w/ scum so thick that the birds could walk on it), we tried:

1. Ravenswood Zin OldHillRanch 1991: Dark color w/ light bricking; rather cedary/pencilly/oldZin some
smokey/oak light berry/blackberry some dusty/OV rather complex nose; tart/tangy/metallic fairly cedary/
pencilly/oldZin light blackberry/Zin flavor w/ light drying tannins; lots of oldZin character and
still offers some pleasure, not totally shot, but still hanging in there.
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2. Ravenswood Zin OldHillRanch 1992: Much the same nose w/ more fragrant blackberry/boysenberry/Zin more
spicy complex nose; same cedary/pencilly/oldZin more blackberry/Zin/briary some dusty/OV flavor w/ light
bit smoother tannins; in a bit better shape than the '91 and offers up much pleasure but on its way
downhill.
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3. Ravenswood Zin OldHillRanch 1993: Dark color w/ some bricking; same cedary/pencilly/oldZin some funky/
wet wool/wet army blanket nose; rather cedary/pencilly slight blackberry/Zin/fruit bit funky/wet wool
flavor; softer/smoother on the palate; seems a bit more tired than the first two.
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4. Bedrock Cuvee Karatas (65% MonteRosseSemillon/35% SauvBlanc) 2015: Med.yellow color; quite fragrant/
perfumed strong figgy/Semillon/graham cracker slight stony/earthy lovely nose; lightly tart fairly
rich/lush balanced strong figgy/Semillon/graham cracker light floral/herbal/SB light stony slight
waxy flavor; a very attractive rendition of Calif Semillon.
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5. Once & Future Mourvedre OakleyRoadVnyd (barrel sample) 2015: Med.light color; beautiful smokey plummy
earthy/mushroomy/ContraCosta smoked hot dog very interesting nose; soft/lush smokey/plummy/Mourv
rather earthy/CCCnty flavor w/ light soft/ripe tannins; an absolutely delicious expression of CC Mourv.
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6. Bedrock Sherman's Gold Zin EsolaVnyd/Amador (barrel sample; 14.2%) 2015: Med.dark color; bright
spicy/berry/briary/bramble blackberry/Zin slight earthy lovely nose; soft strong briary/brambly/
blackberry/Zin/boysenberry fairly bright flavor w/ modest ripe/smooth tannins; quite an attractive
expression of Amador Zin w/o the overripe/jammy character they can often displey.
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7. Once & Future Zin BedrockVnyd 2014: Dark color; strong blackberry/Zin/boysenberry quite dusty/OV
very spicy very fragrant nose; lightly tart rich/structured quite dusty/OV strong very spicy/blackberry/
Zin some dusty/OV rather complex flavor w/ modest ripe/smooth tannins; very well-structured and built
for the long haul.
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8. Once & Future PetiteSirah PalisadesVnyd (14.01%) 2014: Very dark color; very strong blackberry/peppery/
PS/ripe/plummy light earthy big fruit nose; bit soft full/rich/lush strong blackberry/boysenberry/
peppery quite structured light earthy/dusty/OV flavor w/ ample soft/ripe tannins; loads of PS fruit
w/o the soft/fleshy character Palisades PS often shows; reminds some of the JacobFranklin PS w/o the oak;
big/structured PS yet avoids any over-the-top character.
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9. Ravenswood Zin 1976-2016 SonomaCnty (Teldschi & OldHill vnyds) 2014: Very dark color; very intense Zin/
blackberry/very spicy/stevie stacionisboysenberry light toasty/oak quite dusty/OV light briary/bramble beautiful
some complex nose; lightly tart rich/ripe very strong blackberry/boysenberry/Zin/very spicy quite
dusty/OV light toasty/oak quite structured complex flavor; a bit old-timey Ravenswood that should
age for many yrs; of the quality of any OldHill.
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10. Ravenswood Zin DickersonVnyd/NapaVlly (14.9%) 2013: Very dark color; strong bright raspberry/blackberry/
Zin/spicy light toasty/oak lush/bright fragrant nose; lightly tart bright/very spicy/raspberry/Zin/
blackberry light toasty/oak slight earthy flavor w/ modest smooth tannins; more bright fruit and
high-toned character than the OldHill and none of the eucalyptus that used to dominate Dickerson;
not quite the structure of OldHill but still should age well.
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11. Ravenswood Zin OldHillRanch/SonomaVlly (14.2%) 2013: Very dark color; very strong/intense blackberry/
boysenberry/Zin/very spicy quite perfumed rather dusty/OV light oak lovely complex nose; lightly tart
very structured/rich very strong blackberry/Zin/boysenberry/ripe rather dusty/OV complex flavor;
a very classic OldHill that should easily go out 10-15 yrs.
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And a wee BloodyPulpit:
1. Once&Future: Though I'd ordered Joel's '14 release, I've not yet received them. So this was my first
test drive w/ O&F. I was impressed. They reminded me a lot of his early Ravenswood wines, but w/
not as much oak as those had. The wines are well-crafted and have the structure his Ravenswood wines
always showed. Not quite as rich & fleshy as the Bedrock reds.
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2. Ravenswood: The 1976-2016 is an unreleased Ravenswood to celebrate the 40'th anniv of Ravenswood.
When Constellation bought out Ravenswood, there were a lot of ChickenLittle Ravenswood fans running
around to avoid the sky falling on them. Thus far, I've not seen any evidence of that happening.
Joel had agreed to stay on at Ravenswood as "winemaker". A gather he no longer serves on the BoD
of Constellation, but he continues as "winemaker" at Ravenswood. The "" are to indicate that he
continues to have the final say-so on the vnyd-designate Ravenswood Zins, though I doubt that he's
there much hauling hose and pumping tanks, those wines are still his babies. Constellation has
considerably expanded Ravenswood at the bottom end. I'm pretty sure that Joel doesn't have a
lot of input into the Ravenswood VintnersBlend and County designates. And I didn't ask to inspect
his time-card w/ Constellation. But from my tastings, I've not seen any decline in the top-tier
wines at Ravenswood.
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3. I should mention that the lunch Joel prepared was absolutely delicious...a simple roast chicken &
various accompaniments. MFK Fisher would have been proud. A great way to blow thru an afternoon.
Tom
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Re: WTN: Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock..(long/boring)

by Patchen Markell » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:41 pm

Great notes, thanks! The 2015 Once and Futures sound really promising, too.
cheers, Patchen
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Re: WTN: Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock..(long/boring)

by David M. Bueker » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:42 pm

Great stuff Tom.

Were the two Once & Future barrel samples representative of new, upcoming releases?
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Presumably..

by TomHill » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:23 am

David M. Bueker wrote:Great stuff Tom.
Were the two Once & Future barrel samples representative of new, upcoming releases?


Presumably, David, the two barrel samples will be on the next release.
The Sherman's Gold was actually Bedrock, not O&F.
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Re: WTN: Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock..(long/boring)

by Mike Filigenzi » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:06 pm

Wow - Kenworthy Winery. That's one I haven't thought of in quite a long time. Were they over where Young's is now?
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Re: WTN: Lunch w/ JoelPeterson @ Bedrock..(long/boring)

by Jenise » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:54 pm

Great notes, thanks.
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Yup...

by TomHill » Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:46 am

Mike Filigenzi wrote:Wow - Kenworthy Winery. That's one I haven't thought of in quite a long time. Were they over where Young's is now?


Yup, Mike...now it is Young's.
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