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I joined Naked Wines so that you don't have to

by Jenise » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:45 pm

Still intrigued by my neighbor-the-scientist joining this club, and after ensuring that I wasn't obligating myself any further, I 'bit' at the 'case of wine for $65 delivered' initial offer. How bad could it be for that, I wondered.

Right off the bat, emails from found Rowan starting pouring on the love, and I do mean love, trying to create excitement toward the day all 93,445 people in line in front of me got out of the way so that I could become an Angel too.

The case of wine showed up within a few weeks. In it was a big glossy folder full of over-the-top information, including a card about the size of the Christmas card you get from your insurance agent every year embossed with "Your journey has begun" and containing photos of my new friends, the winemakers I was now 'supporting'.

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In between the emails came some snail mail teasers like the letter from "Jeff Jarvis, winemaker" with "Thanks from the bottom of my heart" in a handwritten-looking font scrawled across the top of the page. "Dear Jenise," it reads, "Please accept a bottle of wine with my grateful thanks. It will appear in your basket...on the day you become an Angel. You are about to invest $40 a month in winemakers like me...so you can taste where your money is going and see how it has changed my life."

"I've been making wines for years, and I'm fortunate that people say I'm very good at it with over 15,000 positive reviews and a lifetime of shiny medals. But despite all these awards...life for me was very hard indeed...I had to spend 200 days a year on the road...and hardly got to see my family...Because you are funding me I can invest in quality. I can buy the best fruit, I can give my wines the time nature needs to do her magic and I can make the wine the way I want to make it...So from my family to you, thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Jeff."

So, the wines. I've only opened four bottles so far, but all four were hopelessly, or barely, average and what's in the bottle tastes cheaply made (as are the labels). But they're probably cleverly average too, as they're clearly meant to never offend an inexperienced palate. They are not lean or racy or earthy or funky or bitter or concentrated or bombastic or tannic--probably especially not tannic--or showing character in any way at all. They are simplistic with no sense of regional typicity, and every one has a maudlin back label message from the supposed winemaker like this underripe NZ pinot did: "Lay of the Land wines have been a long time coming, After ten years as head winemaker with a leading Marlborough winery, the beautiful Angels and our wonderfully dedicated farming friends have combined with me to bring this long dream of a project to your wine glasses. It is still hard to believe it is really happening--thank you, all you Angels."

This is a wine club for lonely people. But it's an amazing shtick, and has been interesting to witness. Those of us who understand the world of winemaking know no true artisan of fine wine spent his life dreaming of being able to make the kind of bland, dilute wines I've tasted so far. The only campaign I've ever seen like this was the stuff that came to my father in law (after he died, all his mail was forwarded to us) from Jimmy Swaggart and Reverend Schuller; it goes beyond the product to play on neediness and emotion, and what has worked with religion is apparently working in the secular world of wine. I would never have bet something like this would succeed, but it apparently has.

Needless to say, when I got the email this week telling me that I was finally at the front of the line, I opted out.
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Re: I joined Naked Wines so you don't have to

by Lou Kessler » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:53 pm

Jeez I'm sorry I was looking forward to your future descriptive posts. Naked Wines drew my attention.
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by David M. Bueker » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:00 pm

I only hope they let you out as easily as you think they did.
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by Brian K Miller » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:12 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:I only hope they let you out as easily as you think they did.


Can we expect Jenise to receive CDs with recorded voices of "small family winemakers" SOBBING at how she ABANDONED them? :lol:
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by Robin Garr » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:33 pm

Brian K Miller wrote:Can we expect Jenise to receive CDs with recorded voices of "small family winemakers" SOBBING at how she ABANDONED them? :lol:

We've already been asked to set up her left-hand ad column so it plays "Achy Breaky Heart" and "Breakin' Up Is Hard to Do." :lol:
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Re: I joined Naked Wines so you don't have to

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:36 pm

I wonder if she got her 12 cassette tapes for 99 cents.
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Re: I joined Naked Wines so you don't have to

by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:25 am

David M. Bueker wrote:I only hope they let you out as easily as you think they did.


Oh sure they did. They made it clear at the beginning, and the last email provided the means for opting out--they just bet that you'll be so happy with your $5 wines and all that email love you won't be able to turn it off.
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:26 am

Brian K Miller wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:I only hope they let you out as easily as you think they did.


Can we expect Jenise to receive CDs with recorded voices of "small family winemakers" SOBBING at how she ABANDONED them? :lol:


LOL!
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:27 am

Robin Garr wrote:We've already been asked to set up her left-hand ad column so it plays "Achy Breaky Heart" and "Breakin' Up Is Hard to Do." :lol:


I want it! With a picture of the free NRA camo travel bag--that would make my day! :)
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by Thomas » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:46 am

Is there such a thing as a female cad???
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by Glenn Mackles » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:03 am

I really don't understand why people join these things. I am nowhere near as sophisticated or knowledgeable about wines or the wine world as many people here...still, I find I am perfectly capable of finding and purchasing wines that my wife and I enjoy. Yes, I make a mistake from time to time but I think that's normal if you try new wines...some won't be as pleasing as you hoped. But most of the time I do OK and in these internet times a huge selection of wine can show up at my front door at the push of a few keys. And I mostly find that "incredible" bargains usually turn out to be not quite so "incredible" or perhaps the word should really be "not credible."

I find myself no more tempted to join wine clubs than I do to send money to people who want to tell me about their fantastic investment advice systems. If they really were even partially as successful at investing as they claim to be why exactly do they want my paltry few dollars? The fact is that wine clubs have wines they want to push to make money for them...me and what I want matters little or not at all to them.

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by JC (NC) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:26 pm

Just a couple days ago I replied to a friend who was asking what I thought about a wine club whose ad she had seen. I told her I didn't put much stock in wine clubs and thought she would be better off choosing her wines herself and she said she agreed with me.
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:33 pm

Thomas wrote:Is there such a thing as a female cad???


You want to explain that?
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:41 pm

Glenn Mackles wrote:I really don't understand why people join these things. I am nowhere near as sophisticated or knowledgeable about wines or the wine world as many people here...still, I find I am perfectly capable of finding and purchasing wines that my wife and I enjoy. Glenn


In my experience most wine lovers LOVE shopping for wine. But my neighbor isn't one of them. And the one wine store he used to buy from because he trusted the proprietor's advice closed down. A wine club that would fill those shoes would suit him very well, and he loves having the wine just show up on his doorstep. If he finds wine through a subscription service that meets his needs, more power to him but if they all skew toward the level of what I've tasted so far he won't stay with it.
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:45 pm

JC (NC) wrote:Just a couple days ago I replied to a friend who was asking what I thought about a wine club whose ad she had seen. I told her I didn't put much stock in wine clubs.


I've had the same conversation many times. But this one intrigued me because I've had three different locals ask me about this one, and at $60 for a case of samples it seemed reasonable to acquire an opinion about it as more people are likely to ask.
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by Thomas » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:19 pm

Jenise wrote:
Thomas wrote:Is there such a thing as a female cad???


You want to explain that?


I guess when you have to explain the joke, you failed at telling it.

Just riffing on you dropping your new love partner, Naked Wines. Nothing serious or incriminating.
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by Jenise » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:25 pm

Thomas wrote:Just riffing on you dropping your new love partner, Naked Wines. Nothing serious or incriminating.


Ah, good; no problem with that.
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by Jenise » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:08 pm

So we've opened two more. 1) a drinkable French Sauv Blanc that tastes completely unlike French wine or Sauvignon Blanc as we know it. No cat pee, no gooseberry, no grass, no green bean, no herbs--no varietal typicity whatsoever. The finish is dry enough thanks to good acidity, but the fruit just tastes like sugar--bland and indistinct. Tastes more like a cheap pinot grigio. 2) An Argentine malbec. Opened it last night for a South American themed dinner party in which there were three other non-Naked Argentines so had the comparison. And what a comparison--the other two malbecs, a Catena and a Fabre Montmayou, were obviously well-made wines with long-range intentions. The Naked malbec smelled faintly of vinegar and had the same simple-syrup sugar flavor to the fruit, which even my non-geek guests commented on. The remainders of that bottle went home with one of said guests so they could start their own home-vinegar making project. I am now six for six.
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by Carl Eppig » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:46 pm

Happily we made a clean break with them after choking on the initial shipment!
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by Jenise » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:02 pm

Carl Eppig wrote:Happily we made a clean break with them after choking on the initial shipment!


Way to go, Carl.
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by Mark Lipton » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:41 pm

Jenise wrote:This is a wine club for lonely people. But it's an amazing shtick, and has been interesting to witness.


I think that you nailed it, Jenise. It is designed to appeal to people who have never visited a winery but who are intrigued by wine. They get the illusion of a relationship with a small winemaker and a bottle of decidedly mediocre wine. For some, it will probably be worth it, and let's face it: in CA, OR and WA it is hard to get the type of personal connection to a winemaker that is so common in Europe. Anyone who wanders into the tasting room at Beringer thinking that they'll form any sort of connection will soon learn otherwise.

A well-meaning friend, knowing that I like wine, gave me a coupon for Naked Wines. One look at their website gave me all that I needed, but your post is the confirmation of my suspicions.

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by Sam Platt » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:18 am

This thread reminded me that I have tasted a Naked Wine selection in the past. A friend, who knows that we like white burg, gave us a Heintz (?) St. Veran that they had received from Naked Wines. My note indicated that it was heavy on oak and light on everything else. Seems that we shared the balance with the kitchen sink.
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by Jenise » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:53 pm

Sam Platt wrote: Seems that we shared the balance with the kitchen sink.


Not surprised. But for a pleasant if undistinguished Portugese red, we haven't been able to finish a bottle.
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by Carl Eppig » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:04 pm

We've been reluctantly and slowly working through our one and only case; hate to throw anything out. Last night we opened the Jacqueline Bahue, Lodi, Cabernet Franc, 2013. Don't know who Jacqueline is, but the wine was vinted and bottled by Naked Wines. Have to admit is was only half bad, well maybe three quarters bad. Drank it with a shepherd pie kinda thing that True Love made from left over shredded chicken thighs in a sauce they were cooked for an event, peas, and mashed potatoes.

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