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New and Old World wines - Consumers purchasing habits

by JuliaMtgne » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:08 pm

Hi wine lovers!

As part of my Bachelor’s thesis, I’m conducting a survey about New and Old world wines.

That would be a huge help if you could complete that survey! Thanks to everyone who will take the time to answer it.

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by David M. Bueker » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:14 pm

Done.

Funny enough, I am very familiar with the two wines that had their labels appear in your survey.
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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:37 pm

Maybe you could tell us where you are from and what kind of interest you have in the world of wine. Myself, I am not keen on surveys.
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by JC (NC) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:26 am

Some questions I didn't really have an answer--a $7.00 Chilean wine versus a $25.00 French wine--what grape, what region of France, etc.?

"Brand" usually doesn't matter to me but "producer" or "winemaker" does and often vineyard does.
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by Tim York » Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:20 am

The survey blocked for me after the Jadot Pernand-Vergelesses label but my answers would in any case by heavily skewed by the fact that I am an Old World citizen and resident.

PS: I finally unblocked it (unanswered question). Daft comparison between 7$ Chilean and 25$ French!
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by David M. Bueker » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:55 am

Folks, try to remember that we are the wine elite so to speak. For many folks the basics are all they consider. Take off your geek hat for a minute.
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by Robin Garr » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:07 am

Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Maybe you could tell us where you are from and what kind of interest you have in the world of wine. Myself, I am not keen on surveys.

Bob, that's not a very welcoming comment. Might be just as well to keep that kind of thought to yourself? :shock:
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by Rahsaan » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:40 am

Bob Parsons Alberta wrote:Myself, I am not keen on surveys.


Why?
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Re: New and Old World wines - Consumers purchasing habits

by Jenise » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:52 am

Done! And I thought it was fun. Interesting that when the French and Chilean Wine were $25, no problem, French, and when the wines were each $7, easy choice: Chilean, though only because I associate Chile with good cheap wine and in the U.S. there's virtually no such thing as a drinkable $7 French wine. But when my choice was $25 Chilean and $7 French, I balked because 'neither', my actual preference in this case, wasn't an option. If I have $25 to spend, no Chilean wine stands a chance of getting my purchase.
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by Tim York » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:02 pm

Jenise wrote:Done! And I thought it was fun. Interesting that when the French and Chilean Wine were $25, no problem, French, and when the wines were each $7, easy choice: Chilean, though only because I associate Chile with good cheap wine and in the U.S. there's virtually no such thing as a drinkable $7 French wine. But when my choice was $25 Chilean and $7 French, I balked because 'neither', my actual preference in this case, wasn't an option. If I have $25 to spend, no Chilean wine stands a chance of getting my purchase.


Perhaps unsurprisingly, over here, in Belgium as well as in France, we can with a little care in selection find some quite decent French wine with real terroir character for €6 (roughly $7) from regions like the Loire, S.Rhône, Languedoc/Roussillon, Cahors and even Bordeaux. IMO these are far more interesting than the well made but rather industrial and usually boring offerings from Chile at a similar price. At $25, it's a no brainer in favour of France.
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by David M. Bueker » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:15 pm

Funny enough, I drank several wines from the producer (Emiliana) that had a label in the survey. I had wines that ranged from $8 US to $40 US. They were universally good and except for the $40 bottle (only one, the rest were $25 and under) very good value for the quality. Then on our very last day in Chile we visited Emiliana. It was the best visit of the day, incredibly informative and reinforced the quality and value of the wines. I would not hesitate to buy a wine from Emiliana if I saw it in a shop or on a wine list. I actually sought out a few, but they have zero distribution in CT.
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Re: New and Old World wines - Consumers purchasing habits

by Jon Leifer » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:46 pm

In the $25 or so range, there are a number of attractive Chilean wines..Lapostolle and Montes offer some attractive wines in that price range, just to name a few.
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by Tim York » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:41 am

Jon Leifer wrote:In the $25 or so range, there are a number of attractive Chilean wines..Lapostolle and Montes offer some attractive wines in that price range, just to name a few.


Jon, those are good wines but, having tried them a few times, I wouldn't buy them because IMO they don't add anything distinctive, rather the contrary, to the sweeter fruited and oakier wines from the same varieties made over here.

David's post is interesting because it shows that in Chile, as in other countries, there are little exported wineries with availability mainly in the home country making wines which are at least as interesting as those of their bigger brothers. I guess that, if I were living in Chile or having an extended stay, I would get a lot of fun from seeking out wineries like that.
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by David M. Bueker » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:51 am

Actually Tim, Emiliana is by no means small. They make a couple hundred thousand cases. And they have wide distribution in the USA, just not near me.
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by Jenise » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:17 pm

Tim York wrote:
Jon Leifer wrote:In the $25 or so range, there are a number of attractive Chilean wines..Lapostolle and Montes offer some attractive wines in that price range, just to name a few.


True, and I'm aware of this. And I actually bought a Los Vascos Reserve last week for $15--because it was in a close-out bin. I also think Cusino Macul is a great value at in the topic price range. But I rarely see those wines where I live, and that Los Vascos joins two or three Don Melchors, which is of course not in the price category we're discussing, as being the only Chilean wines I own.
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Re: New and Old World wines - Consumers purchasing habits

by Peter May » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:51 pm

Survey done.

I consider Chilean wines as good quality and value for the money.

However, looking at CT I see I drink very few, and have only one in my cellar - a half-bottle of dessert wine...

I suppose that I don't feel a connection.

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Re: New and Old World wines - Consumers purchasing habits

by JuliaMtgne » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:16 pm

Hi everyone!

Thank you all for your help! It will be very useful for my thesis! I am a French student studying in the USA. I don't have a lot of knowledge about wine in general but it is something that interests me. I plan to go back and try to work in the wine industry one day.

This survey has very general questions about pricing and labels for example. I'm interested in trying to see why would a consumer buy a wine from the New world or the Old world. What are their motivations when making the purchase decision.

If you know people that would be interested by that survey don't hesitate to share it around you.

And thanks again for your help,

Julia

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