1. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht Riesling AC: AGC Brand/Turckheim (12%) 1986: Deep golden/burnished bronze/bit brown color;
slight oxidized/nutty/toasted hazelnuts very slight gout de petrol/old Rheingau/piney fairly complex nose;
soft rich/lush rather nutty/toasted hazelnuts slight oxidative/bitter some old Rheingau/piney/buttery very
slight petrol fairly complex flavor; very long/lingering old Rheingau/butterscotch/caramel/piney slight nutty/
oxidative finish; not a lot of gout de petrol and more like an old Rheingau and getting a bit tired but still
an interesting old Riesling. $23.75
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2. Dom.Ostertag Riesling AC: AGC/Muenchberg (14%; MeBaD) 2012: Med.gold color; fresh floral/R some ripe/pineapple/
mango/perfumed talc some mineral/flinty rather Germanic nose; quite tart fairly rich/lush strong pineapple/
mango/floral/ripe R light mineral/stony quite ripe flavor; long ripe/pineapple/mango/floral/R/perfumed talc
rich/lush/glycerined slight mineral/stony finish; a big/ripe R that seems very overpriced and not likely
to make wonderful old bones. $57.50 (KK)
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3. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT AC: A (MaD; 14%) 2012: Med.light gold color; very intense floral/cheap hair oil/
Vitalis/lychee/spicy bit carnations/gardenias/floral quite attractive nose; fairly tart rather rich/lush strong
ripe/cheap hair oil/lychee/GWT bit floral/gardenia ripe flavor; bit metallic/tart strong GWT/hair oil/lychee/
lush/ripe some floral/gardenia finish; lot of ripeness but good acidity and should age into something interesting;
my favorite of the Z-H's; reasonably priced at $26.50 (KK)
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4. Dom.Ostertag GWT Vignoble d'E (11%) Epfig 2013: Med.gold color; some lychee/GWT/spicy very ripe/overripe/lush
rather simple nose; very soft/fat rather sweet (2%-3%) light lychee/hair oil/GWT pineapple flavor; med.long
soft/fat/flabby rather sweet/ripe/lush/overripe light lychee/hair oil/GWT finish; a soft/fat/boring/simple
lightly GWT wine that should bring down shame on all Alsace; way overpriced (natch, KermitLynch) at $37.49 (KK)
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5. ReneSchmidt GWT AC: A (Reserve; CuveeParticuliere; 12%) Riquewihr 1986: Med.dark gold/burnished bronze color;
lovely spicy/old GWT/cinammon/nutmeg slight earthy/piney/smokey quite complex beautiful old GWT nose; slightly
tart beautiful old GWT/spicy/nutmeg bit smokey/piney slightly bitter complex flavor; very long/lingering slight
butterscotch/caramel spicy/old GWT/nutmeg some piney/herbal/smokey very complex finish w/ a trace of oxidative/
bitter notes; a beautiful example of an old/mature Alsace GWT.
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6. BottFreres GWT AC: A CuveeExceptionnelle (12%) Ribeauville 1988: Med.gold color; slight musty/funkey/mousey/
earthy some old GWT/spicy/nutmeg/piney rather strange nose; slightly tart/bitter/metallic slight mousey/funky/
musty/earthy slight old GWT/spicy flavor; med.long slight old GWT/spicy/nutmeg some mousey/earthy/funky finish;
this btl has not done well and not nearly as good as another btl a week ago. $10.40
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7. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT Reserve (MaD; 13%) LeonardHumbrecht/Wintzenheim 1988: Med.gold color; low-key bit
earthy/smokey some lychee/GWT/spicy/grapey lush/ripe nose w/ little complexity or evolution; lightly tart
rather grapey/lycheee/GWT lush/ripe/simple slight metallic/bitter flavor w/ little development; med. light
grapey/lychee/GWT/hair oil/lush slight metallic/bitter finish; still some GWT fruit but shows little in the
way of evolution or complexity; on the simple side & disappointing. $11.30
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8. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT AC: AGC Hengst/Wintzenheim (13.5%) 1988: Med.dark gold color; slight musty/funky some
grapey/lychee/GWT rather low-key/quiet some spicy nose; soft/lush/ripe/rich slight off-dry quiet/lychee/GWT/
grapey simple flavor; med.long soft/ripe/lush/rich mouthfilling/glycerined light/simple GWT/lychee finish;
still plenty of ripe/lush GWT fruit but not much interesting for a 26-yr old Alsace GWT. $22.40
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9. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT AC: AGC Goldert/Gueberschwihr (13%) 1988: Med.dark gold color; rather smokey/pungent/
piney fairly grapey/lush light GWT/lychee/hair oil ripe/youthful bit complex nose; soft/fat/ripe/lush/youthful
light GWT/grapey/lychee/hair oil flavor; long/lingering slight old GWT/spicy some youthful/lychee/GWT/hair oil
bit complex finish; shows a slight degree of complexity/evolution you'd expect of a 26-yr old GWT, but mostly
a lot of quiet/youthful/lychee/GWT character; my favorite of the Z-H's but not mind-blowing. $26.35
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10. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT AC: A ClosWindsbuhl/Hunawihr (14.5%) 1988: Med.dark gold color; strong spicy/GWT/lychee/
hair oil slight old GWT/spicy/cinammon/nutmeg bit ripe/alcoholic/over-the-top nose; soft/fat/lush/glycerined
slight spicy/old GWT/nutmeg strong grapey/lychee/hair oil/GWT maybe off-dry quite youthful flavor; long soft/
fat/lush/ripe strong lychee/GWT/hair oil slight oldGWT/spicy/nutmeg bit off-dry big fruit/youthful finish;
shows a bit of evolution buut still loads of youthful GWT fruit. $22.49
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11. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht Tokay PinotGris AC: A ClosJebsal/Turckheim (14%) 1988: Med.gold color; strong lush/ripe/
pineapple/mango/grapey slight spicy/nutmeg rather interesting nose; soft/ripe/lush/fat/mouthfilling slightly
off-dry ripe/mango/pineapple/grapey loads of youthful fruit flavor; very long soft/fat/lush quite ripe/mango/
pineapple slightly sweet intense PG fruit somewhat grapey/simple quite youthful finish; still a young wine
w/ loads of ripe PG fruit but almost complexity/evolution for a 26 yr old Alsace wine. $19.70
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12. BottFreres GWT Tradition AC: A (12.5%; RS: 6 on 1/9 scale) 2011: Med.light yellow color; slight volatile/
pickle juice some fennel/dill/peppery light GWT/lychee somewhat interesting/atypical nose; soft/fat/flabby
strange dill/fennel very sweet slight GWT/lychee flavor; med.short soft/fat/porky way sweet slight GWT/
lychee finish; pretty miserable example of Alsace GWT; what a disgrace for such a hallowed name. $30.00 (vLA)
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13. AlbertBoxler Sylvaner AC: A (13%) 2007: Med.gold color; strong ripe/pineapple/R-like/mango/lush/flowery slight
earthy/dusty fruity/attractive bit simple quite pleasant nose; soft/ripe/lush strong mango/pineapple/fruity
slight earthy maybe off-dry pleasant flavor; med. soft/lush ripe/pineapple/mango/flowery/fruity finish;
a pleasant enough wine but a bit on the simple side & showing little evolution or even potential thereof.
$19.20 (vLA)
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The ole BloodyPulpit:
1. BottFreres: We bought a ton of the BottFreres GWT/Riesling, both CuveeExceptional & ReservePersonnelle in
the '76 vintage when it came thru EsquinImports. Around $6/btl. I had this same GWT '88 about a week ago and
it was sensational...a beautiful classic aged Alsatian GWT. I was expecting great things of this wine (#6)
tonight. Alas, the btl was off/strange and not particularly good. But it was way more interesting than the
porky dreck that was the '11.
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2. Z-H: I recall back in the early '80's when the Z-H wines started getting huge scores out of Monktown. I tried
and as totally dazzled by them. They had an intensity of fruit that was quite different from other Alsatian
wines of that era. Because of the huge scores, I bought a bunch of them. This is my last stash of those early
Z-H's. This was, of course, before OlivierHumbrecht took over from his Dad, before organic, before biodynamic.
But the style had already been set in motion of harvesting later, lowering yields, higher alcohols, emphasis
on Grand Cru vnyds, occasional RS. And high prices.
Because I was so dazzled by those early Z-H's, I thought, because of their intensity of fruit, that they
would make lovely old bones, the way that Alsatian GWT/R routinely would do in the '70's. Big fail on my part.
What struck me about these '88 Z-H's, is the amount of fruit they still showed at 26 yrs of age. They only
hinted at the complexity that I'd routinely find from Alsace. The R showed little signs whatsover of the gout
de petrol that I love in old R.
I will not deny that Z-H raised the bar for GWT/R/PG (as well as the prices and Monktown scores) for all
of Alsace. For a single producer to accomplish that for an entire region is astounding. If your definition of
great Alsatian wine is an intensity of fruit, then Z-H most assuredly makes great wines. If your definition of
great Alsatian wines is one that makes great old bones, like they used to do routinely back in the '60's-'70's,
then I'm not convinced that Z-H makes great wines.
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3. Ostertag: When I first started trying Ostertag, I was quite taken by their austerity. Not a lot of R or GWT
fruit, lots of terroir-driven/mineral character, and bone-dry. They were not very pleasant to try upon their
release, but I was confident they would make great old-bones. Many of them did. Some never seem to come
around and remained austere their whole life.
These were the first Ostertags I'd tried in at least 10 yrs. I was shocked at how overblown they seemed
and lacking in acid. Will probably never revisit Ostertag in my lifetime.
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4. The Dismal State of Alsatian Wines: A couple of weeks ago, I tasted 3 '88 Alsatian GWT's. That prompted the
rant I've quoted below. I was, of course, pilloried for not worshiping at the altar of Z-H. But this tasting
did nothing to change my view of Alsatian wines. I won't deny that Z-H and others are making the greatest,
most profound, wines ever to come out of Alsace. But when I want to sit down to my TarteFlambe or weenies &
kraut and want a good/tasty GWT to accompany it, and not spend a ton of $$'s, it'll be a Helflich or a Boxler
or a basic Trimbach or a RollyGassman that I reach for. Or spend $25 for a great AltoAdige GWT. But if I want
to dazzle my friends w/ the power and extract that a profound/great Alsatian GC GWT can show, I'll go for a
ClosWindsbohl and spend the $100+ that entails. And just how sad is that???
TomHill wrote:Tried these three Alsatian wines over the weekend:
1. BottFreres GWT CuveeExceptional AC: Alsace (12%) Ribeauville 1988: Deep golden color w/ no browning; beautiful spicy/cinammon/nutmeg slight smokey/VixVaporRub/wintergreen some quiet/GET/lychee quite perfumed/complex bit herbal/pungent beautiful/Alsace GWT nose; slightly bitter/tangy spicy/cinammon/nutmeg/lychee/GWT gentle/subtle/smooth quite complex/mature GWT flavor; very long slightly bitter spicy/cinammon/nutmeg rather lychee/GWT complex finish; a lovely example of a fully mature Alsatian GWT; a subtle/quiet GWT. $10.40
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2. Dom.Zind-Humbrecht GWT AGC: Hengst/Wintzenheim (MaD; 13.5%) Leonard et Olivier Humbrecht/Wintzenheim 1988: Deep golden color; light hair oil/lychee/GWT/ripe bit grapey slight earthy nose w/ a bit of complexity; soft/lush/fat very light/GWT/lychee very glycerined bit alcoholic/overripe rather simple/grapey slightly bitter flavor; med.short very light lychee/GWT simple/grapey lush/fat/glycerined finish; not nearly the complexity or GWT varietal character of the Bott; still a very alive wine but on the boring side. $22.39
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3. Dom.Zind-humbrecht GWT Reserve (MaD; 13%) LeonardHumbrecht/Wintzenheim 1988: Med.dark gold color; lovely/fragrant strong lychee/GWT/slight hair oil bit spicy/cinammon/nutmeg slight smokey/valve oil rather complex nose; soft quite rich/lush/glycerined some lychee/GWT some spicy/nutmeg/cinammon bit complex/old GWT somewhat fat/soft flavor; very long some lychee/GWT slight hair oil ripe/lush/fat bit cinammon/nutmeg/old GWT bit complex finish; a lovely fully mature GWT & much more interesting than the Hengst but not up to the Bott.
$11.30 (A)
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A another tedious BloodyPulpit:
1. This is a rant I've delivered any number of times over the last 10-15 yrs. It deserves repeating.
I fell in love w/ Alsatian GWT/Riesling back in the early '70's, at the urging of PhilReich & ReneRondeau at LiquorMart in Boulder. The wines were tart/refreshing/good-drinking/cheap and went very well w/ my favorite weiners & kraut dish. Did I mention they were not very expensive?? Names like Trimbach/Hugel/BottFreres/A.Willm were always on my table. The Wilm ClosGaensbroennel '59 that I bought in KansasCity (at an astronomical price of $16/btl) around '70 opened my eyes to the glories of old Alsatian GWT. In the mid-late '70's, my group bought 20-25 cases of the BottFreres GWT & Riesling, both the CuveeExceptional and ReservePersonalle of the '76 vintage. Around '73, we bought some 40 cs of the Dopff "AuMoulin" SchoenebergRiesling and EichbergGWT GrandCrus '71 at a stupid/silly price of about $3.99/btl. Those wines were still alive last time I had one of them some 10 yrs ago or so.
But then things started to change. In the early '80's, Zind-Humbrecht upped the ante in Alsace. They started harvesting later, lower acids, higher alcohols/greater ripeness/higher extract/ often some RS. OliverHumbrecht was annointed the World's "greatest genius" winemaker, and they started getting huge scores out of Monktown. The prices jumped an order of magnitude in those 10 yrs. The wines were dazzling & amazing and left you shaking your head in what Z-H had wrought. Alas, they did not go very well w/ my weenies&kraut anymore. Alas, more & more Alsatian winemakers, noting the success out of Monktown for the Z-H wines, started making wines more&more in that style. Gradually, Alsatian wines started to fade from my dinner table. I haven't bought a case of Alsatian wines for my group in yrs & yrs. The last Alsatian wine that really jazzed me was an older (forget the yr) Trimbach GWT that I probably bought 8-9 btls at ArroyoVino. Anymore, when I want a great GWT loaded w/ lychhee & hair oil. I look, not to Alsace, but to the AltoAdige. Fits w/ my weenies & kraut to a T.
So, last week, I came upon this case of older Alsatian wines from which these three were taken. They illustrate exactly the point I've been trying to make over the yrs. Sadly, traditional Alsatian wines are a thing of the past. Save for a few stalwarts like Trimbach and a few others, Alsatian whites now longer have much of a role on my table.
The BottFreres was exactly what I look for in an older/mature Alsace GWT. It was, by far, the best of the three. The low-end Z-H was actually pretty good, but not in the same league of the Bott. The Z-H GrandCru was nice enough, still holding on well, but just didn't have much interest to me. Dull as dishwater. No weiners & kraut or TarteFlambee for it. It's enough to make a grown man cry. Alas...there are alternatives. Alas...they don't come from Alsace.
End of rant.
Tom
Tom