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WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Bill Spohn » Sun May 04, 2014 10:11 pm

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Notes from a tasting dinner arranged by Albert Givton, based on wines picked up from Zachy’s from the collection of Dr. Aziz Khan, a noted collector.

http://www.zachys.com/retail/features/?cid=22174

If you are interested, see the catalogue at http://www.zachys.com/auctions/download ... Y_Day2.pdf Page 44 of that catalogue offers a nice write up on Dr. Khan and description of the wines. The Rioja listings start on p. 64.

The event was held at the Blue Water Café in Vancouver, where Chef Frank Pabst proved once again that he could cook something other than seafood!

A bubble to wet one’s palate was offered with hors d’oeuvres:

2000 Paul Bara Champagne Grand Cru Comtesse Marie de France – showing some colour, and a nice up front sweetness on palate, light citrus, and a rich feel and good length. Some pleasant peachy aromas developed.

With a course of tapas – a quail galantine, a Chorizo salad, a chicken and foie gras croquette and a fava and Serrano ham tostada, we tasted thes wines:

1947 Bodegas Palacio de Arganza – this one isn’t exactly a household word amon wine aficionados, but it proved to be my best of flight choice. Excellent depth of colour, with pale edges, the nose made me wonder at first as it featured two suspicious notes, a mustiness (TCA) and dill juice (VA). It settled down, though, and was smooth across the palate, ending sweetly with some spice.

1950 Bodegas Franco-Espanolas Royal Reserva – a good mature Rioja nose although not specifically showing the typical oak, light colour, with mellow smoothness across the palate and medium length.

1952 Berbarana Reserva Cosecha Especial – this wine and the subsequent win had slightly different labels but were in all probability the same wine, perhaps from different bottlings. A mahogany colour, and for the first time American oak popped up. I felt it was a little lean on palate but it ended with the signature sweetness and medium length. It might have been my favourite of flight had it not also showed a vegetal hint.

1952 Berbarana Reserva Cosecha Especial Ano – very similar to the other bottle, but with more acid and veggie. Considering they are/were 64 years old, not a bad showing.

The next course was a tapas sort of array of lamb strip loin with herb crust, roasted duck breast, a baked mushroom stuffed with Wagyu beef, and short ribs braised in Tempranillo, with an ancho chilli and coffee sauce. All of the wines were from CUNE (actually CVNE on the labels, but tray saying that. Stands for Compañía Vinícola del Norte de España).

1948 Clarete – Clarete is the lowest tier of red wine, and it is made from mixed white and red grapes, grown together in the vineyard and vinified like a normal red wine. The Rosado is the other version, made with very brief skin contact. This wine had pretty darned good colour given that some Claretes can be fairly pale. The nose was a tad Rhonish, showing charred oak. Sweet entry, medium length ending with a leathery sort of impression. Alive but not very interesting.

1954 Vina Real Reserva Especial – more interesting. Light caramel notes in the nose, and a lovely sweet soft entry followed by supple feel and good length. Good show, but not my favourite! Vina real is a separate winery owned by CVNE.

1964 Vina Real Reserva Especial – a bt lacking in the nose at first (there were two bottles of each served and they were arranged so that everyone was sitting beside someone tasting the other bottle, and comparison were easy. The other bottle had a better nose). A little acidic in the mouth, but with some interesting spice in the finish. Very decent.

1966 Imperial – their top wine, and a lovely ripe nose of enticing fruit, followed by a sweetness on palate with flavours of plum and cassis. The smooth creamy texture was a delight and it had excellent length. This would stand up in a 1966 Bordeaux flight, although the aromatics would give it away.

Finally with cheese (Monte Enebro – goat, Zamorano – sheep, and Mahon – cow):

1925 Marques de Riscal Reserva – yes, it had the gold wire over the bottle, even back then. The colour was amazing, now a deep garnet. There were notes of dark cherry and tea with some interesting herbal hints. Smooth on palate, and tasty, one could hardly believe this was almost 90 years old. Wine of the night for me.

1937 Marques de Riscal Reserva – bad times in Spain when this one was made with harvest coinciding with the ending moves of the civil war and not much wine got made, so a bit of a rare curiosity. Similar colour, with caramel and spice nose, also quite tasty, but not up to the magnificent 1925 and it also faded more quickly than that wine.

With an almond pastry cream:

Scholtz Hermanos Malaga 1885 Solera – while I doubt that there is much wine from the year this solera was founded, it is a style I love, as opposed to the treacly all too usual Malaga that seems to accentuate sweetness over all (similar to some of the Pedro Jimenez Portuguese wines that are so sweet that you couldn’t locate a flavour nuance f it was full of them – the sugar just overwhelms all else). This wine was pale brown or dark amber (take your choice) and had a very Madeira sort of nose with added components of molasses and dried apricot and nuts. It was not hugely sweet (hard to gauge actual RS of course, in the absence of information about acid levels) and was a bit hot, finishing with some nice spice.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by John Treder » Sun May 04, 2014 10:40 pm

You were very fortunate.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Jenise » Mon May 05, 2014 5:03 pm

I've actually had that '54 Vina Real before--it's not a vintage I've seen anywhere else but Rioja and Madeira. Must have been one of those strange little pockets of decent weather.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Bob Henrick » Fri May 09, 2014 6:44 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:
1925 Marques de Riscal Reserva – yes, it had the gold wire over the bottle, even back then. The colour was amazing, now a deep garnet. There were notes of dark cherry and tea with some interesting herbal hints. Smooth on palate, and tasty, one could hardly believe this was almost 90 years old. Wine of the night for me.

1937 Marques de Riscal Reserva – bad times in Spain when this one was made with harvest coinciding with the ending moves of the civil war and not much wine got made, so a bit of a rare curiosity. Similar colour, with caramel and spice nose, also quite tasty, but not up to the magnificent 1925 and it also faded more quickly than that wine.



Bill, I don't remember when I have seen TN's or other notes on the Riscal wines, however they hold a special place in my heart. I went to Spain in 1969 with the USAF and returned in 1972, forever changed. Riscal is the wine I cut my wine teeth on. As I recall I could buy it in the on base liquor (class 6) for one dollar per bottle and it was considered pretty expensive at the time and place. I still buy it from time to time, for "Old times" never the same. I think I was drinking the tinto from around 1965 or so, and it was so different from current day Riscal that There is simply no comparison. Thanks for the notes on these two.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Bill Spohn » Fri May 09, 2014 7:16 pm

Yeah, I was brought up on the golden wired Riscal as well, and a few others. Fond memories.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Eli R » Sat May 10, 2014 7:02 am

Hi,

For the launching of CUNE import to Israel, a special tasting was held at the WIne Route store.
Although the oldest vintages were from the 70s, it was obviuos that the Vina Real bottles were in much better shape than the Imperial. Oldest bottle was 1973.
All 5 from the 70s and 80s were in a very good shape.

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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Tim York » Sat May 10, 2014 8:52 am

Bob Henrick wrote:
Bill Spohn wrote:
1925 Marques de Riscal Reserva – yes, it had the gold wire over the bottle, even back then. The colour was amazing, now a deep garnet. There were notes of dark cherry and tea with some interesting herbal hints. Smooth on palate, and tasty, one could hardly believe this was almost 90 years old. Wine of the night for me.

1937 Marques de Riscal Reserva – bad times in Spain when this one was made with harvest coinciding with the ending moves of the civil war and not much wine got made, so a bit of a rare curiosity. Similar colour, with caramel and spice nose, also quite tasty, but not up to the magnificent 1925 and it also faded more quickly than that wine.



Bill, I don't remember when I have seen TN's or other notes on the Riscal wines, however they hold a special place in my heart. I went to Spain in 1969 with the USAF and returned in 1972, forever changed. Riscal is the wine I cut my wine teeth on. As I recall I could buy it in the on base liquor (class 6) for one dollar per bottle and it was considered pretty expensive at the time and place. I still buy it from time to time, for "Old times" never the same. I think I was drinking the tinto from around 1965 or so, and it was so different from current day Riscal that There is simply no comparison. Thanks for the notes on these two.


That rings bells with me, Bob. Like you, I was a frequent visitor to Spain in the late 60s/early 70s, but not with the USAF, and cut my teeth on Riscal. Up to then only Bordeaux and Burgundy existed for me. Rioja, especially 10+ year old Riscal, came as a real revelation, particularly at their then amazingly low prices. Somewhere about the 80s, Riscal became more industrial and their wines lost their magic though are still OK drinks. I don't think that this is just my seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles as many others seem to agree.

Now turning to Imperial 1966, I finished a small stock of two or three bottles about 10 years ago. They showed no "Reserva" or "Gran Reserva" designation but were all lovely wines just as Bill describes. I am glad but not surprised that some bottles are still showing just as beautifully. About the same time I attended a vertical of Viña Real going back to the 50s and there were some lovely bottles there too; I bought a 1970 which showed well, if not as perfectly as the Imperial 66, about 5 years ago in spite of a low shoulder level.
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Re: WTN: Rioja, 1925-1966

by Bob Henrick » Sat May 10, 2014 2:51 pm

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I remember vividly drinking Frederico Paternina Banda Azul from the early to mid 60's too. I had a friend (Spanish corporal in the Spanish AF) who worked in their military weather office just as I worked in the US Air Weather Service). I was the NCO in charge of the weather office on the US side of "Base Operations", and Paco was of course on the Spanish side. (same building). On days when he worked, nothing doing but for us to go to the cantina across base for lunch. We almost always had the blue plate special and split a 750ml of the Paternina with lunch. The price for the bottle was 25 Pesetas, or about 40 cents. the meal was well under the price of the wine and I always got the wine, so for the big Spanish meal with a pretty decent wine it cost me the grand total of about 65 cents. I also remember going to a downtown Sevilla restaurant called the Via Veneto. this restaurant was located just across the street from Big Cathedral, and appeared from the street to be a typical working class bar. However the entire building (3 stories tall) was a great dining experience. My wife and I were in a party of about 10 couples and we all ordered separately from the menu. My wife and I had what I interpreted as an Hors d'Oeuvres. As it turned out it was a turkey platter sized plate loaded with different cheeses, sausages, stuffed vegetables, many kinds of olives many of which were stuffed with things like garlic, artichoke, anchovies, pimento, and other things which I can't recall. there was a salad course, soup course, a fish course, and the entree was filet of beef. (prime beef) dessert was a crepe, loaded with Spanish fruit and whipped creme. with each meal was rather decent wines some red, and some white. with coffee served after some aged manchego cheese the head waiter had about 20 bottles of cordials and brandies lined up along the center of the big table where all 20 of us sat. the grand total for that meal was 700 pesetas or $10 for the two of us. Generallisimo Franco had decreed that we could not tip beyond a small amount, but that evening that decree was ignored. I think the table left a hundred dollars on the table to be split amongst 5 waiters. The good old days were sometimes really good!
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