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WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by Dale Williams » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:07 pm

Thursday was spicy Greek-accented turkey meatballs in a tomato sauce, and I opened the 2008 Nino Barraco Pignatello. Shows as 12.5% but comes across as bigger- dense purpley color, some tannin, black plums with a load of tobacco. . I just can’t get into this. Tasted on succeeding nights seems the tobacco went ashtray-ey. Not my cuppa. C+

Second wine was the 2013 Chidaine Touraine Rose. Light, fresh, vibrant acids, floral with strawberries, fresh and fun. B+/B

Friday Betsy made an old favorite, spaghetti with zucchini and mussels. She needed a cup of wine, and of course a bit to drink, and I wanted to try the 1997 Valentini Trebbiano d’Abruzzo I’d got from a discount bin. Nutty, oily, with some oxidative notes that seem to go away. Very full-bodied, white pit fruits and almonds, earth. Seems fresher on day 2! A lower acid vintage of Valentini, mature but holding. B+

I went over to Roger’s house, where I opened a starter, the 1989 Trimbach Gewurztraminer Reserve. Clear Gewurz character, litchi and flowers, ripe fruit leads to debate re RS (I think very little). B+/B

I went back to Zachys and cleaned out the closeout bins of the Valentini and Trimbach.

On to the evening’s main event, Riesling. Wines were blind, but I had suggested people group by category (dry, offdry, sweet, dessert) so we could save our palates from wild sugar swings

Blind Riesling # 1- clean, just a hint of RS, apples anjd peach, a little citrus zest, guessed Alsace. 2009 Trapet Riesling (Riquewihr) B/B+

Blind Riesling # 2 -oops, guessed Alsace again. Apples, minerally, good. 2012 Dr. Frank Dry Riesling (Fingers Lake) B+

Blind Riesling # 3 - not blind to me.Big, mature, appleskin, lemon, sweet fruit, ready to go. 1998 Trimbach Cuvee Frederic Emile Riesling B+

Blind Riesling # 4 - Full, zippy acids, dry, I’m guessing Grosses Gewachs from Pfalz or Nahe. My favorite of the night. 2010 Knebel von den Terrassen Riesling (Mosel) B+/A-

Blind Riesling # 5
Halbtrocken, soft acids, lighbodied,2007 Xavier Flouret "Kavalier" Riesling Kabinett Trocken (Mosel). B-

Blind Riesling # 6- offdry, canned peaches and a little lime, I guess West Coast US. 2012 Clean Slate Riesling (Mosel) C+

Blind Riesling # 7- offdry, light, petrol, lime and tropical fruits, good acids, long finish. 2008 JJ Prum Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett B+

1969 Heinrich Seip Niersteiner Spiegelberg Beerenauslese (Rheinhassen)
Not blind. Plenty of life here, but not much excitement. No signs of oxidation, some petrol, apricots and flowers, botrytis, a bit ponderous, not a lot of acid. I think blind I would have thought Sauternes (or maybe something like Loupiac or Cadillac) from a soft vintage. B-/C+

Saturday Betsy had a concert, I made myself some catfish, Asian slaw, and roasted root vegetables. I had one last wine to try from the discount bin, a 1998 Inama “Vigneto du Lot” Soave Classico Superiore OK, so there’s not really old/oxidized notes here. But what is here is quite….different. Brassy color, some sweetness (RS?), oak, pineapples and guava, a fat texture. Interesting, but not what I want. B-/C+

So with my fish I switched to 2011 Fosse-Seche “Arcane” Saumur. Pretty classic Chenin, full bodied, lemons, orange zest, wool, and ripe apple. Very nice wine, but just a tad soft in acids. B/B+

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by David M. Bueker » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:30 am

I wonder where Zachy's got that '89 Trimbach. Had it been sitting there for all that time?
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by Dale Williams » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:01 am

All (Trebbiano, Trimbach, & Inama) had consigned from a private collection stickers. My assumption is that they took a cellar, and these were the items deemed non-auctionable. I bought sampling because I was concerned about storage history-these are "as is" bins. But all seemed well-stored. So the Trimbach was $5 for first bottle. When I went back got 3 more but they were $15. Not sure if original was mispriced, or if someone realized that there was a market (we were discussing at checkout, and I was mentioning that I thought '89 might be greatest ever vintage at Trimbach).
The Valentini and the Inama were $10. There were also $20 Bertolli 1970 Chianti Classico and I think 1950 Lynch Bages was $60 or 70 (great RB year but I think terrible in Medoc). Plus 83 Remoisset & Louis Latour burgs.
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by David M. Bueker » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:08 am

Gotta love NY. We almost never see close out/bin-end/clearance items like that up here. It pretty much has to come from a distribuor clearing out, as retailers in CT and MA have very restrictive criteria on close outs.
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by Charles Weiss » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:03 pm

Dale,
I'm far from a stranger to closeout bins, but if saw Valentini Trebbiano d’Abruzzo in a closeout bin my heart would go pit-a-pat!
Just asking... if I moved to NYC from Boston would I have to root for the Yankees?
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by David M. Bueker » Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Charles Weiss wrote:Just asking... if I moved to NYC from Boston would I have to root for the Yankees?
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Mets until your probationary period was up.
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by Michael Malinoski » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:09 pm

Charles Weiss wrote:Dale,
if saw Valentini Trebbiano d’Abruzzo in a closeout bin my heart would go pit-a-pat!


Man, my first thought was the same thing!
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Re: WTN: Rieslings, plus a other French & Italian wines

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:15 am

David M. Bueker wrote:
Charles Weiss wrote:Just asking... if I moved to NYC from Boston would I have to root for the Yankees?
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Mets until your probationary period was up.


What about my Jets? :lol:

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