Wine values-a proposal for the forum

[David M. Bueker]

How would folks feel about having a permanent sticky topic on wine values? We could stick with $20 or inch it up to $25.

Feedback please.

David, I think this is a good idea. Am always keen to try anything I think might be decent when under $25 Cdn.

[Robin Garr]

Fine with me. I'll cast my vote for $20, though. $15 wouldn't be enough to get into consistent quality, but I think $20 is enough to make it a challenge worth playing against.

$25 limit might get in some more QPRs.

Take with a huge grain of salt because I tend to ignore the "stickies"....

I don't really see the value in it and I'm not sure I want that to define us/the WLDG.

Why no sticky on other wines/topics?

[David M. Bueker]

Well Wine Focus is always a sticky. So at least it's clear you mean what you say about ignoring them.

I just thought that a permanent spot to discuss value might be a good home for many items that would otherwise slide off page 1 with little notice.

[Robin Garr]

Well Wine Focus is always a sticky. So at least it's clear you mean what you say about ignoring them.

I just thought that a permanent spot to discuss value might be a good home for many items that would otherwise slide off page 1 with little notice.

I love the principle and am willing to go with the crowd either way on the "sticky" issue, although I do find it a little odd that anyone would deliberately ignore a procedure meant to draw attention to a topic.

However, for a non-sticky discussion it's worth noting that a popular topic bobs back to the top every time someone reposts. Maybe "stick" it until it takes on a life of its own, then try un-sticking it to see if it will stay on Page One?

I do find it a little odd that anyone would deliberately ignore a procedure meant to draw attention to a topic.

I'm not interested in the topic! I have no interest in checking what the topic of the month is here and tasting a wine from my cellar of that genre and then posting.

Sorry. Just not interested in that.

I'm also not interested in weekly chats.

Some things here interest me others don't. I'm not going to apologize for that.

[David M. Bueker]

Tom,

What does interest you?

David,

We may not be communicating. Its not the "topic" (wines under $20, or Chardonnay or Bordeaux) its that I'm really not that interested in participating in that particular acivity. Just like I'm not that interested in particpating in the acitivty of WLDG chats. Sorry for not being more clear.

[David M. Bueker]

That's fine Tom. I really am interested in what you do enjoy on the forum. Same goes for everyone.

I love this idea. This is the window where most of my "everyday" wines fall. I think $25 would allow for more diversity and make things more interesting. One thing to consider though might be local market pricing. Being in the Midwest, wines that I purchase here tend to be more expensive than the same wine on the coast or in a major city. So, a $25 wine from someone in NY or CA might be hard for me to find for less than $30-35. Do we go with the price we paid for it, or lowest internet pricing when considering if a wine qualifies?

[David M. Bueker]

Price paid. Easiest solution.

I am all for this idea! Present financial circumstances (now retired) means I am not able to purchase the higher-end wines anymore.

I recently purchased a very good 1) S Africa Chenin for $23. 2) Paternina Crianza Rioja for $20 3) Luneau-Papin Muscadet for $19.
All these wines are excellent value imo. They all have a very good track record .

That's fine Tom. I really am interested in what you do enjoy on the forum. Same goes for everyone.

David,

I don't have time for this but here's a short list.......

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That's a quick but incomplete list.

Close to 80% of the wines I drink are less than $20/bottle. I am always looking for low cost wine recommendations. I think a value sticky would be a great idea.

[Robin Garr]

Well, lots of interesting nuance here, but I am definitely hearing a strong (if not unanimous) chorus in favor of having an ongoing topic for "Wines of Value under $20 (or $25)."

Personally, I like $20 but am not wedded to it. We could either go with $25 - fine with me - or go with $20, with the understanding that it's a loose boundary and wines a few bucks more are still okay.

I'm also happy to make it sticky for a while, although if it gets really popular we might try letting it float on the tide and see if activity will keep it on the first page anyway.

In other words, I'm flexible, but I think the idea has legs. Maybe we should wait until April 1 to start it, though, since this month's Wine Focus is getting plenty of traffic on the same topic.

Or maybe we could just re-title the Wine Focus thread and edit the first post, so we start the new tradition with a good load up front?

All just more grist for the mill, but bottom line, I am hearing a "Let's Do It" for the general concept.

If possible I would love to see a poll added where people can get a sense of how popular (and available) a QPR is with the members. It's one thing to recommend an obscure value wine that will be hard to find and nobody really heard of or tasted, and another for a value wine to be well known, popular and readily available. I would get more value out of the latter. I can generally tell what is popular and available but not always. So if it makes sense to add some sort of way to indicate this (e.g. a poll), that would be great. If people do vote with the poll after a while you could easily see trends where a wine has a strong or weak reputation with members. However, I could see how it might be too much of an admin hassle to do this.

As I'm mostly a bottom-feeder anyway, a topic on less expensive wines seems good to me.
I think $25 would be a better limit than $20. We might even let "price creep" happen.

[David M. Bueker]

I was thinking $25 made sense because it works out as almost exactly 15 GBP at current rates and almost exactly 18 Euros at current rates.

BMcKenney - not really sure how to do what you are looking for in the context of an individual thread for values.

I was thinking $25 made sense because it works out as almost exactly 15 GBP at current rates and almost exactly 18 Euros at current rates.

BMcKenney - not really sure how to do what you are looking for in the context of an individual thread for values.

Someone would have to create a thread with a poll and own it. And that person would have to update the poll with a new item every time a QPR is added by another user via a post in the thread. And setup the poll to allow multiple votes per user. And then people would vote on the items in the poll as it grows. It would be a headache I'm sure.

[David M. Bueker]

Sounds like it! I need an ibuprofin already.

[Robin Garr]

I was thinking $25 made sense because it works out as almost exactly 15 GBP at current rates and almost exactly 18 Euros at current rates.

Perfectamundo! Shall we Make It So?

BMcKenney - not really sure how to do what you are looking for in the context of an individual thread for values.

Pass over that aspirin bottle, willya? I like the idea, too, but it's hard for me to see a procedure that would make it work without creating a significant chore for someone. I'm open to suggestions, though.

[David M. Bueker]

I was thinking $25 made sense because it works out as almost exactly 15 GBP at current rates and almost exactly 18 Euros at current rates.

Perfectamundo! Shall we Make It So?

So let it be written.
So let it be done.