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WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

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WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by David M. Bueker » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:57 pm

Forgot to post this one last week. From 375 ml.

Several years in the cellar have worked magic on this wine. I have never seen quite this level of transformation. It's still quite ripe, with a bit of a roasted edge, but it now has shed enough fat to expose a structure and allow a subtle earthiness and minerality to enter the picture. I hated this wine 4 years ago. Completely and utterly loathed it. Now I wish I had more. Salil was also a fan.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by Tom Troiano » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:01 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Forgot to post this one last week. From 375 ml.

Several years in the cellar have worked magic on this wine. I have never seen quite this level of transformation. It's still quite ripe, with a bit of a roasted edge, but it now has shed enough fat to expose a structure and allow a subtle earthiness and minerality to enter the picture. I hated this wine 4 years ago. Completely and utterly loathed it. Now I wish I had more. Salil was also a fan.


An underrated Margaux Chateau in my humble opinion.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by Hoke » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:26 pm

I'm happy that this iteration of Kirwan is showing so well; and I sincerely hate to disagree with Tom because we've been enjoying an unparalleled string of agreements on so many topics...but Kirwan has always been one of the more frustrating and contrary of chateaux for me.

It's well situated, has some pedigree, but it has always seemed the guiding attitude was one of such conservative fear of doing anything that might in any way distinguish the wines as to avoid any particular character at all. I say this with reluctance, again, because I knew the (I assume now previous) management of the property and somewhere in my archives is a "deed of ownership" to a single vine gifted to me in gratitude (yes, a marketing ploy, but an effective one to a wine geek) and permission, should I visit the chateau, to partake of the symbolic production of that vine. (I don't know if it would still be honored, although I somehow think it probably would.)

My...problem...with Kirwan is that, with all the potential in the world, it often seems to slightly underperform in the best of vintages, with a quickly developing, never profound, and curiously short lifespan in the years it should seem to be the most vigorous.

It is unfair, perhaps, but I think not, to remember so vividly the 1982, a year with such excellence and harmony and substance, that when other chateaux were not yet beginning their stretch to glory, Kirwan was already a fading memory of fruit, a benighted little dusty wallflower, a pale rose in the bouquet, without tannin, mustering old glory in what was not, or should not have been an old wine, but seemed prematurely withered and fragile.

Thus, Kirwan has always been a relatively unimposing chateau, never quite working up to its potential, never quite achieving its possibilities, and always in that "serviceable" stratum of Bordeaux legend.

I am, of course, now somewhat out of the current loop of the classified chateaux, being less active in the trade and as a consequence of age and income more interested in the lesser properties (of which there is an abundance of joy these days---I don't think Bordeaux has ever been better at producing joyously drinkable and affordable wines than right now.) I hope Kirwan is part of that boom, but time and expendable income and the necessity of making choices probably keep me from being aware of it if it is.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by David M. Bueker » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:33 pm

Hoke wrote:I don't think Bordeaux has ever been better at producing joyously drinkable and affordable wines than right now.


I wish Alex were here to see this. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm not interested in speding $50 or more for Bordeaux these days. I can get delicious Bordeaux for $20!
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by Tom Troiano » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:08 pm

Hoke,

Unfortunately, I really can't disagree with you. The one's I've tasted recently (and all were somewhat youngish - definitely not 20 years from the vintage) seemed enjoyable and given the price I just have this feeling that its somewhat underrrated/undervalued. My perception may be off given limited data. I need to drink more.
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by Patrick Martin » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:26 pm

I was pleasantly surprised by the 2003 Kirwan a few years back. It was my favorite in a big blind tasting of mostly mid-range 2003 Bordeaux.

◾2003 Château Kirwan - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux
Wine #4 (single blind): Sweet, classy nose with new oak, rose water, cassis and no praline. This comes across immediately as much more restrained and balanced than the rest of the line-up. This is the most closed, especially on the palate. I like it. 91-92 pts (91 pts.)

The whole line-up can be seen here: https://www.cellartracker.com/classic/e ... vent=19033
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Re: WTN: 2003 Chateau Kirwan

by Richard Fadeley OLD » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:25 pm

How about an '08 Marquis d'Alseme Becker (3rd GCC, Margaux), another obscure chateau in Margaux. Picked up 2 of these @ Trader Joe's the other day.
I have had several delicious bottles of the '03 from this chateau, but this was a real shot in the dark.
Any body with experience with this one?
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