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WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by Bill Spohn » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:30 pm

Notes from the December blind tasting lunch.

A full house for this one, and as usual, some excellent wines were opened.

Piere Peters Blanc de Blancs Grand Cru – this nv bubble was a great way to start off. Not much colour yet (this was a recent cuvee) and a toasty sweet citrus nose, full flavoured and with good texture, finishing dry. Interestingly, I overheard someone else with a totally different reading on this one – high acidity and low fruit. As if we hadn’t tasted the same bottle!

2007 Domaine Weinbach Clos des Capucins Pinot Gris Cuvée Ste. Catherine – one of my wines of the lunch! Medium colour and an absolutely seductive nose with all sorts of clove, nutmeg and spice notes, with apricot and roasted nuts – it took me a half minute before I could pull my nose out of the glass and actually taste the wine. It was surprisingly dry compared to expectations from the nose, but in fact did have some residual sugar, well balanced and with a lengthy finish, ending with a bit of heat (unusual to see an Alsatian wine, particularly an off dry one, have 15% alcohol!).

Dom. L’Oustal Blanc (Isabel and Claude Fonquierle) – this white from the Languedoc was hand carried back to us, or we’d likely never have seen it. It is non-vintage but is labelled as Naick 10 (being a diminutive form of their daughter’s name plus the vintage). Made from Grenache blanc, it is not an authorized wine in that area so isn’t even a vins du pays, but rather a vin de table. Lighter and drier than the Alsatian, this had notes of white pepper, vanilla and peach and peach pit in the nose, good mouth feel and length, and shared the previous wines 15% alcohol and thus had the same noticeable warmth at the end.

1982 La Louviere – a completely mature Graves with tea, tobacco and fruit notes in the nose, adding some smoky notes later, very un-claret like at first but then settling into form. A bit low on acidity and needs drinking up, but it showed much better than I’d have guessed it would.

1985 Doudet Naudin Vosne Romanee – a village wine, albeit from an excellent vintage, but from a producer that has fallen from grace in recent years? Again, it surpassed what would have been our expectations – it had clear red colour, a noise of sweet coffee mocha and fruit, was medium long and finished cleanly. Too bad this producer doesn’t seem to make this quality today.

1990 Lungarotti San Giorgio – this Umbrian IGT cab/sangio blend was also fully mature and I thought it showed some nice red fruit and mushroom notes in the nose, smooth on palate and seemed a bit acidic until we got some food at which point (like many Italian wines) is snapped into focus, Very decent.

1991 Marques de Caceres Rioja Gran Reserva – a mellow sweeter nose with American oak, which had us waffling between Spain and as an outside chance Australia. Still drinking well but not going anywhere and should be drunk up. Decent

1990 Penfolds Grange – I was quite surprised by this one. Ripe sweet nose, and on palate sweet but not overly so and showing mint and some pepper. This didn’t come across like most Granges do – it was more restrained, but a pleasure to drink, without the excess of hedonistic fruit and concentration of other vintages. No one guessed this as a Grange – it was just a bit too far outside the usual style. Someone commented on the tannins, but I felt they were nicely resolved. Once we knew it was 1990 and a Penfolds wine, we were still mulling over which Shiraz it could have been (McGill,, Koonunga etc. – RWT didn’t exist back then) and no one thought it could possibly be Grange. Interesting.

1996 Ducru Beaucaillou – a green tinged obviously cabernet nose, with cassis and black cherry notes. On palate a big hit of softening tannins, and a fair bit of acidity with very good length. I thought at first that it might have been a very good California cab and guessed perhaps a Montelena with enough age to start kicking out these nice secondary notes. Perhaps I was beguiled by the more than ample fruit? Very good wine, just starting to hit stride and no rush at all. Checked my list and for some reason I bought the 95 but not 96.

1999 Cousino Macul Finis Terrae – the basic and reserve cabs from this Maipo producer are perennial good values. This is their top wine and is always principally cabernet with some merlot and syrah blended in. This one had some interesting candy and black olve notes in the nose along with more conventional greenish cabernet hints. On palate it was resolved and tasty, fully mature.

2003 Lungarotti Rubesco Monticchio – I opened my back up wine to fill a temporary lull as we waited for the main course. Much riper nose than the blended San Giorgio, this is entirely sangiovese (70%) and canaiolo (30%) and got a 3 glass rating from Gambero. I got some ripe cherry with anise in the nose, and it was ripe and soft in the mouth with appropriate acidity. Enjoyable now.

1998 La Mission Haut Brion – great way to end the dry wines as this was a beauty. Excellent concentrated nose of spicy plum and pencil shavings. Mellow fruit on palate with very good flavour concentration, and backed by firm but supple tannins. I’ve tasted a few 98s that left me thinking they were going to be great medium term wines, but this isn’t one of them. Guess I made a 'graves' mistake! Bet on this for the long haul!

1977 Dow Port – this wine was a bit puzzling. I’ve tasted it on several occasions and have a few bottles in my cellar, untouched, and have always enjoyed it very much. The colour was dark enough that I wondered if it wasn’t an 83, but the nose was troubling. Not TCA, we concluded after much discussion, yet a mustiness was indubitably present that gave us pause. No problems on palate where it showed lots of secondary quality and subtlety. Long finish. Wonder what is going on here – poor cork?
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Re: WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by David M. Bueker » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:07 am

Really interesting notes Bill. Thank you for posting.

The Pierre Peters NV BdB is one of my 2 house Champagnes, and never fails to impress. I can actually see some folks considering it high acid/low fruit though, as it is an intensely mineral Champagne. Love the stuff, and it ages very, very well. If you see any, buy it in magnum. The magnums are vintage juice, and while the bottles are great, the mags are stunning!
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Re: WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:35 am

I have sampled L’Oustal Blanc in the past and found it exceptional. It was the Alberta price that eventually put a dent in my enthusiasm :( .
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Re: WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by Jenise » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:03 pm

Bill Spohn wrote: A full house for this one, and as usual, some excellent wines were opened.


True, but I was disappointed that, overall, it wasn't our usual Christmas lunch in that you did not urge, and therefore others did not observe, the tradition of years past to bring better-than-usual bottles. I did, but it was lonely! Next year?

Anyway, my notes:

Piere Peters Blanc de Blancs Grand Cru – While I can see what you mean about this wine, and though it wasn't me you overheard (we got held up at the border, but in spite of the fact that we called to advise our approximately 20 minute delay the snooze/lose rule was apparently in effect and we got only about .5 ounce each from Dave's glass. Excuse me for taking offense at that, but I was offended!) But back to the wine, I'm in the "high acid, low fruit" department. That is, I immediately compared it to the excellent and very old school Bollinger-style Absarsi (or something like that) I had with lunch on Thursday and the voluptuous Rene Geoffrey of the evening before. By comparison, the Peters was not "full flavoured"--no baked apple, no brioche, just lean and citrusy.

2007 Domaine Weinbach Clos des Capucins Pinot Gris Cuvée Ste. Catherine – This was outstanding, for all the reasons you state. Nutmeg, clove, apple butter, ginger, with outstanding concentration. Mind blowing to consider that this is the same grape that produces all that mediocre bar wine in this country.

Dom. L’Oustal Blanc (Isabel and Claude Fonquierle) – Is Grenache blanc the same as Grenache Gris? I think I recall Nadine calling it the latter, but I'm not up on my white grenaches so you could well be right. Anyway, yes, it was very good--love these unusual bottles that people bring back from far off places--I'm impressed that Bob has had it in Alberta! My notes mention hazelnut and pear preserves (would love to have had a sip of it with the savory dessert they served).

1982 La Louviere – Agreed, completely mature. So much so that I didn't think it Bordeaux at first because the smokeyness on the palate was so forceful. Definitely at the end of life--I'd deem it past "fully mature". I note that it was not decanted before pouring, and it dried up noticeably when shared 12 ways. Two people sharing one bottle would have been pretty disappointed with their second pours.

1985 Doudet Naudin Vosne Romanee – Not a producer I'm familiar with, but what an impressive showing for a village Burgundy!

1990 Lungarotti San Giorgio – I would call this much less "fully mature" than the Louviere. Very nice wine, and I agree with your description.

1991 Marques de Caceres Rioja Gran Reserva – What you said.

1990 Penfolds Grange – Not enough Grange experience to think in terms of "most Granges", but at my end of the table it seemed that once Penfolds was established, the attempt to guess which Penfolds was as much "who would actually bring Grange to lunch?" as anything else. Agree it was pleasurable, though laden with the typical lactic Aussie buttermilky thing that I just don't care for on syrah. Will sell my remaining bottles.

1996 Ducru Beaucaillou – Much as I love Montelena, I found this one too layered to be a California wine and was convinced it was Bordeaux from the outset. Definitely had us all talking about when/if these mid-90's vintages are ever going to get into the Barcalounger and relax. Needs more time.

1999 Cousino Macul Finis Terrae – Delicious. Loved Coop's nailing Chile right off the bat, and his reasons for doing so (very ripe yet very green) will stay with me.

2003 Lungarotti Rubesco Monticchio – Very enjoyable, Bill. And yes riper than the San Giorgio, but also a bit more brawny and rustic compared to the San Giorgio's elegance.

1998 La Mission Haut Brion – Glad this showed so well. I was proud of little '98!

1977 Dow Port – I'm still not sure that wasn't TCA. If mustiness isn't a very low level of TCA on a 35 year old port, then what else is it?
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Re: WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by David N » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:37 pm

The L'Oustal Naik was almost all Grenache gris, with just a splash of Macabeu.

The Pierre Peters was certainly citric but very refreshing. Not really my preferred style, but who's to complain about drinking a good grower champagne!

I thought that the 1982 La Louviere was well on the downhill path. The member who brought it advised drinking up quickly as it was drying out in the glass.

On the other wines my impressions were fairly much in line with both Bill and Jenise, except that I am in Jenise's camp on the Port. It was (unfortunately) corked. TCA is TCA! It is not "musty". It is corked. :cry:
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Re: WTN: Weinbach Grange Ducru La Mission Dow

by Bill Spohn » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:04 pm

FWIW I agree with both you and Jenise about the 82 Louviere but I guess I sized it up right off the bat as a drink quick and so I drank it quick.

Which reminds me that I have some 1990 I better find soon!

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