Hey Hoke! Muller-Thurgau question.

Seem to remember that Muller-Thurgau can produce some nice wines from countries including N Italy. There are a few examples on CT, and I should add that a few BC wineries can turn out a good one. What should I expect from my M-T?
Have you dabbled with M-T, Hoke? Might even be some from California I think.

Linda Lindsay of Stone Wolf Vineyards in McMinnville, OR grows and makes Muller-Thurgau. The last time I saw her (about 4 years ago), I believe they were about to harvest their first crop, so I haven't tried it yet.

[David M. Bueker]

There are good M-T wines from the Alto Adige. Best ones I have had came from the Franken region of Germany.

Why the sudden interest in the spawn of Riesling and Sylvaner?

Why the sudden interest in the spawn of Riesling and Sylvaner?

Sylvaner appears unlikely in the mix. From http://www.wineloverspage.com/wineguest/wgg.html#muller-thurgau

Early ripening cross once thought to have been developed from Sylvaner and Riesling but some authorities now contend, based on DNA analysis (2002), that there is a high degree of genetic similarity between the varieties Chasselas de Courtiller and Madeleine Royale although it has not yet been possible to prove them identical.

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCller-Thurgau: [url]Müller-Thurgau is a white grape variety (sp. Vitis vinifera) which was created by Hermann Müller from the Swiss Canton of Thurgau in 1882. It is a crossing of Riesling with Madeleine Royale.[/url]

[David M. Bueker]

Thanks. Hadn't kept up on the latest genetic rundown of M-T. As you might imagine it does not hit my radar screen that often.

Seem to remember that Muller-Thurgau can produce some nice wines from countries including N Italy. There are a few examples on CT, and I should add that a few BC wineries can turn out a good one. What should I expect from my M-T?
Have you dabbled with M-T, Hoke? Might even be some from California I think.

Generally, light bodied, fruity, and of course, with acidity. The sweetness/dryness depends on the producer.

I believe the old Blue Nun, etc. of the 60s and 70s were largely Muller-Thurgau.

[David M. Bueker]

Supposedly there is still a good bit of M-T in Blue Nun, though Riesling now makes up a meaningful % of the blend.

There are good M-T wines from the Alto Adige. Best ones I have had came from the Franken region of Germany.

Why the sudden interest in the spawn of Riesling and Sylvaner?

Hi David, saw a couple downtown including one from Alto Adige...Cantina Bolzano. I recently posted on their Weissburgunder.
On the UK forum, they go into raptures over Tiefenbrunnen.

Sorry to be late to the party, but looks like good content already provided.

Producers in Alto-Adige to look for:

Yes, Tiefenbrunner

Also, Alois Lageder, Terlan (or Terlano-Kellerei or Cantina Terlano), St. Michael-Eppan, Hofstadter.

I imagine the most widely distributed is the Lageder. And it's good.

As was indicated earlier, M-T in Germany has been most widely used as filler for a lot of brand name wines. You can find it in varietal format as well. Surprisingly, there's a goodly amount in the Mosel, although the Rhinehessen and Franconia lead in acreage (or at least they did; I assume they still do but maybe not.) Good M-T is possible in Franconia...but I always end up drinking Sylvaner from Franconia when I can get it. They still label M-T as Rivaner, I understand.