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WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by TomHill » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:25 pm

On the Thurs that Susan flew in for RR'13, we immediately headed North to spend a bit of time up on MtVeeder w/ Steve/Carole at Lagier-Meredith. Susan had never been there before and was most impressed by the views, not to mention the quite friendly cats. We tried a few things on the deck and then headed down to Napa for dinner at The Thomas at Fagiani's, a wonderful place for a meal. Among the wines we tasted were:
1. Dom.Jean Vullien StJean de la Porte Mondeuse AC: Vin de Savoie (MeBalP; 12.5%; JeffWellburnSlctns) Freterive 2009: Dark color; strong plummy/black cherry/blackberry/Mondeuse some earthy/dusty but rough/rustiv rather fragrant nose w/ lots of bass notes; some tart rather earthy/dusty strong/lush plummy/black cherry/blackberry/Mondeuse flavor w/ some modest tannins; needs several yrs yet; pretty classic Savoie Mondeuse at a great price. $13.00 (WEx)
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2. Lagier-Meredith Tribidrag MtVeeder/NapaVlly RW (15.1%) 2011: Very dark color; very strong spicy/blackberry/Zin very spicy/peppery light toasty/oak beautiful Mtn Zin nose; some tart rather tannic strong blackberry/Zin/boysenberry very spicy/peppery light earthy/dusty light oak very structured flavor w/ some tannins; very long blackberry/Zin very spicy/peppery some earthy/dusty/Mtn Zin light oak finish w/ fair tannins; very well-made and quite structured for the long haul; loads of spicy/peppery/Mtn Zin character; no signs of overripe or alcoholic heat whatsoever; a stunning Zin and well worth the $40.00
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3. Cuilleron LesSerines AC: StJoseph (12.5%) Chavanay 1998: Med.dark color w/ some bricking; rather classic/low-key Rhonish/roasted/smokey/pungent slight blackberry/Syrah some complex nose; fairly tart some lean/hard/dried-out lovely Rhonish/roasted/coffee/smokey/pungent very light blackberry/Syrah some toasty/oak flavor; lots of classic Rhonish character but seems to be on a downhill trajectory.
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4. Lagier-Meredith Syrah MtVeeder/NapaVlly 1998: Very dark color w/ very little bricking; very strong blackberry/Syrah/framboise quite spicy light toasty/oak nose w/ some developing complexity; very strong blackberry/Syrah/spicy/framboise light toasty/oak very spicy classic Mtn-Syrah flavor w/ some tannins; starting to show some complexity but plenty of very spicy primary Syrah fruit and will probably go another 10 yrs; a classic L-M Syrah in all its glory.
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5. JosephPhelpsVnyds Delice du Semillon (13.0%; RS: 10.1%; 15% SauvBlanc) 1986: Very dark golden/bronze some browning color; intense botrytis/peachy/apricotty some buttercscotchy/caramel/creme brulee light toasty/oak rather complex old-Sauternes nose; quite sweet bit tart rich/lush peachy/apricotty/botrytis strong creme brulee/caramel/butterscotchy light toasty/butterscotchy/oak fairly complex flavor; pretty classic old Sauternes w/o the earthy character; beautiful dessert wine that will go another 10 yrs or more. $9.00/hlf
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And a wee BloodyPulpit:
1. One of the things that I learned during our conversation out on the deck was that ChesterBrandlin had died a month earlier. He was the owner of the legendary BrandlinVnyd down the hill from L-M. The bulk of it was sold to Cuvaison some 10-15 yrs earlier and the Zin grapes now mostly go to PeterFranus, w/ a lot of Cabernet being planted and the Mourvedre being pulled. Chester kept a small plot of old Zin and the home to keep himself occupied. He was, of course, the owner of the famed Chester's Anvil that now resides in Steve/Carole's basement, right next to Steve's German girlfriend (an old Porsche). I'd brought along a surplus W33 in hopes that Steve & I could do some anvil launching...but Steve was worried that it's 4.3 kT might do some environmental damage atop MtVeeder and get him in trouble w/ the NapaCnty authorities, so he nixed the idea. I regret that I never had the opportunity to meet Chester. The future of his old Zin vnyd is now up in the air, I gather.
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2. Tribidrag: This is, of course, the ancient name for Zinfandel, for which Carole was a prime person in its association w/ Croatia and Crljenak Kaštelanski (and Italian Primitivo). There was a leaf in an old herbarium in Croatia that looked like Crljenak Kaštelanski. The initial test of this dried leaf failed to identify a variety. As the DNA techniques were refined to work w/ long-dead samples, the Tribidrag was found to be, indeed, Crljenak Kaštelanski. Tribidrag is now the recognized (by JancisRobinson) as the historical name for Zinfandel.
They planted a small plot of Zin on the L-M vnyd in 2007 and was able to make their first btlg of it in 2011. Steve/Carole put Tribidrag on the label in prominent letters, fully expecting it to be bounced by the Feds as Tribidrag is not a recognized (by them) varietal name. A quick Google by the Feds on Tribidrag and the jig would have been up. But they (apparently) thought it to be a fanciful name and approved the label w/ flying colors.
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3. The Thomas charges no corkage for wines older than the 2003 vintage. So we were pretty successful in gaming the system that night. I brought the Phelps in hopes of having it w/ their wood-fired chocolate brownies; reputedly the 2'nd best brownies made in the entire NapaVlly. Alas, they were not on the dessert menu that night.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by Diane (Long Island) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:12 am

When I visited Carole and Steve in October, Steve specifically mentioned he didn't feel their 1998 Syrah was at peak. It seems you agree. I haven't tasted one with that many years on it as I just discovered the greatness of their wines. I only go back to the 2006.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by Jenise » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:50 am

What a smart corkage policy for a place like Napa Valley. It essentially insures that wine-toting tourists pay up for service but that locals and winery people with deeper cellars become regulars.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by Diane (Long Island) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:55 pm

Well, I just ordered a bottle of the Lagier Meredith Tribidrag thanks to your note, Tom. Normally when I see 15% alcohol, I run the other way. But your note was intriguing, and I spoke to Carole today and she assured me the alcohol is not noticeable.
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Arggghhh...

by TomHill » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:35 am

Diane (Long Island) wrote:Well, I just ordered a bottle of the Lagier Meredith Tribidrag thanks to your note, Tom. Normally when I see 15% alcohol, I run the other way. But your note was intriguing, and I spoke to Carole today and she assured me the alcohol is not noticeable.


Argghhh...Diane...you've become yet another one of the TomHill sheep?? Say it isn't so !!! :-)
I think you'll like the wine and won't find the alcohol noticible.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by Diane (Long Island) » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:12 am

It isn't so, Tom :? It was the combination of the recent email regarding its release, and your note which nudged me. I don't think I will ever be accused of being a sheep.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by David M. Bueker » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:36 am

Just got a sampler pack of three vintages of the Syrah I had not yet tried, plus a bottle of the Precious Bane.

Tom - any experience with their dessert wine? I have no idea what to expect.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by TomHill » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:47 am

David M. Bueker wrote:Just got a sampler pack of three vintages of the Syrah I had not yet tried, plus a bottle of the Precious Bane.
Tom - any experience with their dessert wine? I have no idea what to expect.


Dave,
Alas...I've not yet cracked any of my btls yet. Should go well w/ chocolate brownies...or a blue cheese.
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Re: WTN: Tasting w/ Steve/Carole...(short/boring)

by Diane (Long Island) » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:39 pm

David - I trust anything they do to be good, but since I'm not big on wine to go with brownies (sorry Tom), I declined an offer by Carole to taste Precious Bane when I visited. It's also the reason I didn't take advantage of that special. No, not me...I'd rather pay full for the wine I want. :shock: I just ordered a mixed case. Let us know what you think about Precious Bane, David.
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