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Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
I opened my last 2002 ESJ Bone Jolly. I had heard that it might be time to drink them up as they were probably at the end of their life. twasn't so, as this one had 2-3 more years of life left. Never the less all that red fruit met a good end going between my teeth, and over the gums, a bit of a chew and swallow, lookout below here it comes
It isn't? I thought it was Veterans' Day. It isn't Armistice Day anymore. Hasn't been for a long time.Redwinger wrote:Issac,
It is not about you...or me.
Peace,
BP
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Isaac wrote:It isn't? I thought it was Veterans' Day. It isn't Armistice Day anymore. Hasn't been for a long time.Redwinger wrote:Issac,
It is not about you...or me.
Peace,
BP
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Ian Sutton
Spanna in the works
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Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm
Norwich, UK
Redwinger wrote:Thanks Howie. I was a reluctant draftee who perhaps through the stupidity of youth was one of the fortunate ones to come home unscathed. I always remember those who paid a much larger price. If I'm a bit touchy about this day not being about "me", I apologize to those offended.
Bill
I'm not offended. I just think you're being touchy about the wrong thing.Redwinger wrote:Thanks Howie. I was a reluctant draftee who perhaps through the stupidity of youth was one of the fortunate ones to come home unscathed. I always remember those who paid a much larger price. If I'm a bit touchy about this day not being about "me", I apologize to those offended.
Bill
Redwinger
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:36 pm
Way Down South In Indiana, USA
Isaac wrote:I'm not offended. I just think you're being touchy about the wrong thing.Redwinger wrote:Thanks Howie. I was a reluctant draftee who perhaps through the stupidity of youth was one of the fortunate ones to come home unscathed. I always remember those who paid a much larger price. If I'm a bit touchy about this day not being about "me", I apologize to those offended.
Bill
Veterans' Day is for veterans. All of us. Please, don't try to take that away. Just because we survived doesn't make our contribution meaningless.
There is already a day for those who "gave all". That's Memorial Day, and when people try to give me credit on that day, I remind them that it is a day to remember those who have fallen, not those of us who survived.
I didn't serve in battle. Neither I, nor anyone I knew lost his life or was injured in battle. But we served, which is more than most flag-waving jingoists can say. I respect you for your service, and I insist on respect for mine. I earned it.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Graeme Gee wrote:I see confusion arising from the meaning of the various days. Here in Australia, we adopted Anzac Day (April 25) as the official ‘Memorial Day’. It commemorates the day in 1915 when the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (hence ANZAC) first saw service, in the ill-conceived landings on the Gallipoli peninsula in the Dardanelles. After a baptism of fire and 8000 casualties, the only military success of the whole campaign was the evacuation 8 months later. This calamitous defeat – the first action of our federated nation – is the peg on which we hang the memory of those who both died and served in all wars. The day is a public holiday in Australia (and NZ), normally commences with remembrance services at dawn all around the country, and is followed by various street parades of returned soldiers who then repair to toast old comrades for the rest of the day.
Remembrance Day, November 11, tends to be reserved in this part of the world to commemorate the Great War particularly. Australia sent 6% of its total population – an entirely volunteer army – to that war, and sustained the largest casualty rate among the Allied nations. And although Gallipoli tends to get the ‘publicity’, most of the casualties were sustained in the human mincer called the Western Front. That may have been the low point of humanity’s military history; WW2 and subsequent affairs have plumbed the civilian depths, but I don’t think there has ever been a bigger military tragedy than the Western Front of World War I. Soldier’s remains are still ploughed up every year by French farmers…
The day is not a public holiday here, but the tradition continues of a minute’s silence at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, the very moment the guns fell silent in France and Belgium in 1918. I have visited some of the military cemeteries at these old battlefields; no-one could fail to be moved by what they find there. Fifteen-year olds killed while serving under their uncle’s name, brothers buried side by side; men who were killed three days before the armistice; it’s a heartbreaking experience.
Lest we forget.
Graeme
James Roscoe
Chat Prince
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:43 pm
D.C. Metro Area - Maryland
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Maybe. It helps to find the optimum dose.Redwinger wrote:You have my respect and thanks.
I always get those Holidays confused...probably the drugs?
BP
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