The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

More fuel for the ABC crowd

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Mark Lipton

Rank

Oenochemist

Posts

4729

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:18 pm

Location

Indiana

More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Mark Lipton » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:44 pm

Diacetyl (the "buttery" component of buttery Chardonnays) now shown to promote amyloid plaque formation in Alzheimer's models:

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/tx3001016

I knew that there was a reason to stay away from those wines! :mrgreen:

Mark Lipton
no avatar
User

Lou Kessler

Rank

Doesn't buy green bananas

Posts

3517

Joined

Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:20 pm

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Lou Kessler » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:22 pm

Diacetyl, Mark is that found in all chards or just the Rombauer variety? If white burgs ae guilty I'm beyond returning to lucidity.
no avatar
User

Florida Jim

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1253

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:27 pm

Location

St. Pete., FL & Sonoma, CA

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Florida Jim » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:10 pm

[quote="Lou Kessler] If white burgs are guilty I'm beyond returning to lucidity.[/quote]
If?
Best, Jim
Jim Cowan
Cowan Cellars
no avatar
User

Lou Kessler

Rank

Doesn't buy green bananas

Posts

3517

Joined

Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:20 pm

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Lou Kessler » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:16 pm

Florida Jim wrote:[quote="Lou Kessler] If white burgs are guilty I'm beyond returning to lucidity.[/quote]
If?
Best, Jim[/quote]

If I was guilty? If I was lucid? People want to know.
no avatar
User

Mark Lipton

Rank

Oenochemist

Posts

4729

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:18 pm

Location

Indiana

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Mark Lipton » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:21 pm

Lou Kessler wrote:Diacetyl, Mark is that found in all chards or just the Rombauer variety? If white burgs ae guilty I'm beyond returning to lucidity.


Lou,
Rombauer is certainly one of the prime offenders, but any Chard that goes through poorly-controlled full MLF is suspect, I'd say. Most White Burgundies are done with too much care to get that buttered popcorn effect, but I don't buy them so what do I know?

Mark Lipton
no avatar
User

Brian Gilp

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1440

Joined

Tue May 23, 2006 5:50 pm

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Brian Gilp » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:11 am

Lou Kessler wrote:Diacetyl, Mark is that found in all chards or just the Rombauer variety? If white burgs ae guilty I'm beyond returning to lucidity.


Diacetyl is in any wine but there is an increased level in wine that has undergone MLF. Concentrations are higher in reds than whites and CS can be as much as ten times higher than Chard. One of the major factors in the level of Diacetyl in the finished wine is the MLF strain employed. A recent study by Lallemand published in Practical Winery & Vineyard shows a 3X difference in finished Diacetyl levels in the same CS test wine based on choice of MLF bacteria.
no avatar
User

Hoke

Rank

Achieving Wine Immortality

Posts

11420

Joined

Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am

Location

Portland, OR

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Hoke » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:41 pm

My understanding is that frequent copious applications of Muscadet can have a positive improvement!
no avatar
User

Mark Lipton

Rank

Oenochemist

Posts

4729

Joined

Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:18 pm

Location

Indiana

Re: More fuel for the ABC crowd

by Mark Lipton » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:59 pm

Hoke wrote:My understanding is that frequent copious applications of Muscadet can have a positive improvement!


Around our house we refer to this as the Lipton therapy :mrgreen:

Mark Lipton

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AhrefsBot, Amazonbot, Apple Bot, ByteSpider, ClaudeBot, DotBot, FB-extagent, Google Adsense [Bot], Jenise and 2 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign