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David Creighton
Wine guru
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:07 am
ann arbor, michigan
Florida Jim
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:27 pm
St. Pete., FL & Sonoma, CA
Brian Gilp wrote:That all makes sense Craig but I still think there is a second part to this (unless I am missing something) and that is what is driving phenolic ripeness. I see it generally discussed as an issue of hang time with limited regard to the climatic conditions. The answer to why alcohol levels have increased is generally longer hang time to reach phenolic ripeness. Yet from what I understand, the hang time needed can differ significantly from valley floor to mountain vineyard in Napa. I am sure similar examples exist elsewhere. I know that its never exactly the same number of days between verasion and 23 brix or to what I consider phenolic ripeness. Maybe the time to phenolic ripeness differs less than I think it does year to year. Your answer makes sense and explains the variables for the brix but what factors influence a faster or slower maturation of flavors?
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
Howie Hart wrote:The second is the yield per acre. You could have fully ripe grapes at 17 Brix if you have 5 tons/acre and the same variety at 24 Brix at 2.5 tons per acre. However, with the higher brix, you will also have fewer, but more flavorful grapes.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
6389
Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:13 pm
Niagara Falls, NY
True, but for the sake of argument, I was assuming all other things being equal. A friend, who owns a winery, posted pictures on his website a few weeks ago with bunches of grapes lying all over the ground after being cut off the vines to increase quality.Brian Gilp wrote:Howie, I think this depends on trellising and leaf to fruit ratio as David noted above...
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