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WTN: Zinfandel

by Bill Spohn » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:01 pm

We did a Zinfandel blind tasting recently, a departure for most of us that rarely drink zins (although I have been a long time fan).

First wine was a starter, not in theme.

2009 Vincent Raimbault Vouvray – initial impression was sulphur and more sulphur, but it did slowly blow off leaving some melon in its wake. Sweetish entry but OK acidity. so so.

1979 Monterey Peninsula Winery Wilpete Farms Willow Creek Zinfandel (13.9% - I figured that I’d fool them and bring a really venerable bottle that I’d picked up in the early 80s at the winery when I’d been down in Monterey racing old sports cars. Well, it wasn’t really at the winery, it was at a small sales room off the main road where all sorts of things were sold. I recall standing next to a rather large (and loud) lady at the tasting room bar. We were tasting through a range of single vineyard low production zins. She said (well, more bellowed) that the ‘Monterey Nights’ (or whatever forgettable name it was called) red wine she’d just tasted was ‘Damned fine” and that she’d buy a gallon jug…..

This wine was huge when young and needed many years to become drinkable. I’d opened a bottle a few years ago and it was corked, so I crossed my fingers and tried my last one. The wine was almost pinot noir in colour, although without the brick tinge normally found with mature pinots. The mature nose had some spice interest. The wine slid across the tongue smoothly (as, I suppose, had the Monterey Nights, come to that, but I refrained from finding out back in the day), and had lost all tannin, but retained some cassis flavour and medium length. Everyone pretty much liked it.

2007 Peter Franus Napa Zin – instant blueberries in the glass, sweet entry, soft and long (not the desired combination for every occasion…) finishing sweet. Vanilla was the one note that pretty much dominated this. Not a big fan.

1997 Turley Old Vines Zin – the first of a string of Turleys, this one is the blended version and it ultimately failed to impress me, although I immediately (perhaps more luck than skill) said ‘Turley?’ as soon as I smelled it. Very ripe raspberry fruit nose clean on palate with pretty good balance and length but something not quite right in the middle. May just be getting to old? 15.1%

1997 Turley Duarte Zin (Contra Costa County) – I had to pull this out (my back up bottle) when the first one appeared. Medium colour (as have a lot of these wines at this age), big earthy bramble/blackberry nose with some white pepper and spice that followed through on palate. several rungs up from the Old Vines. 15.5%

1997 Turley Dogtown Zin (Lodi) – perhaps the most pleasurable of the three with a fairly sweet berry fruit nose, spicy balanced middle, and long soft finish.

2007 Hendry Block 24 Primitivo – dusty fruit nose with hints of anise, huge concentration on palate, and quite sweet. Not sure if this is going to improve or if it is as good as it will get. Not my style. Presumably used the Primitivo label in an attempt to attract attention.

2007 Scherrer Old and Mature Zin (Alexander Valley) – on the other hand, this IS my style of zin. A Rhone/earthy element in the nose and more raspberry fruit, nicely rounded and sweet on palate with very decent finish. Nice wine.

1995 Rosenblum Late Harvest Zin – sweet simple nose, with concentration overwhelming any complexity, very sweet in the mouth, pleasant, and with the fruit settling in as red rather than black after a bit. Not bad – I could almost but not quite forgive them for using the same sort of foo-foo tall, small diameter half size bottle that many of our BC wineries use for their hyped up so called ice wines. If you want a zin to serve in little chocolate cups, this is it. Also not my style of zin, and a waste of grapes that might otherwise have been used in a decent dry wine.

I preferred some of the old Shenandoah zins that were often high proof, less sweet, but came across as better more interesting zin based dessert wines, or Andrew Quady’s older ‘Ports’ before he went away from zin and into port varietals (I recall a 1978 Lot 2 that was particularly memorable.) Heck, I probably prefer Ficklin to the Rosenblum, although I haven’t tasted their product recently.

Mixed but very interesting bag.
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Re: WTN: Zinfandel

by Brian Gilp » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:49 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:
2007 Hendry Block 24 Primitivo – dusty fruit nose with hints of anise, huge concentration on palate, and quite sweet. Not sure if this is going to improve or if it is as good as it will get. Not my style. Presumably used the Primitivo label in an attempt to attract attention.


I am fairly sure that in California one can only label certain Primitivo clones as such and not just any Zinfandel. I know that the nurseries make the distinction when selling vines. Everyone I have talked to about the subject says that in the vineyard there is a noticeable difference between Zin and Primitivo clones with the zin vines having very tight bunches and the Primitivo bunches are more loose allowing better air flow and lower potential for rot. There is some belief that the Primitivo clones may actually work on the east coast where zin has shown to been to rot prone.
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Re: WTN: Zinfandel

by Jenise » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:53 pm

Bill, I'm surprised there were no Ridges in the line-up. And noticing that, I'm reminded that of all the zins you'd trotted out in the years I've known you, and you've done quite a few, none so far have been Ridge wines. Any reason you avoided them?
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Re: WTN: Zinfandel

by Bill Spohn » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:36 pm

No, I just thought the Turleys needed drinking. I have several Ridges that are also venerable and may bring them out at any time....... :twisted:

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