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WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:11 pm

While noting that Arcadian is now the single best represented domestic producer in my cellar nowadays based on my love for their pinots, I realized that I had yet to try any of the syrahs I'd picked up a few months ago. A mixed bag of reviews exists on Cellar Tracker for all the wines I have: most are scores in the 88 to 92 range with descriptions whose negativity could well be the same characteristics I'd be positive about, so to choose I just reached blindly into the shelf and let fate decide that we would try the Arcadian 2004 Westerly Vineyard. We each had a glass last night and the wine was drinking beautifully right out of the bottle. It was a little tight but that emphasized its pontential similarity to a Northern Rhone vs. most Cal syrahs in a good way, with good dark cherry fruit, a hint of mint and an esoteric cinnamon note on the finish. Excellent and interesting, but mostly without any of the standard syrah markers. I'm sampling a second glass right now, and it's changed quite a bit. The fruit is more raspberry with a bit of fresh bay leaf and dustier-seeming tannins, definitely more syrah-like but with less of the acid than it seemed to have last night. I'm really not sure where it's going from here, but for what I paid
($20)? Delightful.

I'm sampling malbecs now for our February neighborhood tasting. I laughed when I tasted the first one I opened last night, the 2008 Substance Malbec from Washington state, thinking that malbec is for me as grenache is for Dale Williams. I don't get this grape, never have and never will. I feel punished about having to put on a tasting for it and this wine is the poster child for why. Grapey and obvious, fleshy red fruit, lactic notes and strangely more salty than sweet even though it's safely fruit-forward. Went back to it several times over the night and never found a reason to finish the glass.

Better, much better, was the 2008 Gascon Reserve from Argentina. Lots of black huckleberry fruit with more structure, more depth, more all-around sophistication and complexity. Still not what I personally love but very, very drinkable and one I'll definitely buy for the tasting.

And a final note about a bottle of wine Bob and I bought at the poorly stocked Safeway in Bullhead City, Arizona, last week to go with our late night, hotel-room all-salad dinner on the road. (Buy washed mix in clamshell, buy dressing, get two forks from the deli counter....) It was the 2009 Bonterra Cabernet Sauvignon, chosen from a small bunch of the usual branded suspects for it's mix of cooler Mendocino and Lake County grapes and 13.5% alcohol. I don't think we enjoyed a single bottle of wine last week more than this one: didn't take notes but what I remember is that it was dryer than most California cabs and very savory in a Medoc-like way, with pleasing forest and cedar qualitities even if not built with more in mind than the purpose we were enjoying it for. Perfect for salad and a travelling Bordeaux lover like me with very few other good options. If I had to live on a tighter budget than I do, I'd buy a lot of this.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by James Dietz » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:28 pm

I have a lot of Arcadian in my cellar (4 cases), but not much of it is Syrah. I have this Westerly and will give it a go soon. My favorite has been a 2001 Garys'.

So you read CT reviews, but you don't add your own? Why?
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:28 am

Was that a Syrah or a Pinot? (I'm unaware of any Garys' Syrah.) My favorite Arcadian was an '01 Pisoni that we drank this past June. How interesting that we, old friends that we are now, both love these wines. I think you've caught up with me at last. :)
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Bruce K » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:36 am

Jenise wrote:I'm sampling malbecs now for our February neighborhood tasting. I laughed when I tasted the first one I opened last night, the 2008 Substance Malbec from Washington state, thinking that malbec is for me as grenache is for Dale Williams. I don't get this grape, never have and never will. I feel punished about having to put on a tasting for it and this wine is the poster child for why. Grapey and obvious, fleshy red fruit, lactic notes and strangely more salty than sweet even though it's safely fruit-forward. Went back to it several times over the night and never found a reason to finish the glass.


In general, I feel similarly to you, especially as regards Malbecs from Argentina, but I just finished a 2007 Thierry Puzelot in KO we Trust (100 percent Cot, a.k.a Malbec) that was delightful, mixing the tartness, bright acidity and minerality of the Loire with much darker fruit than one gets from the other red grapes grown in the region. And I've tasted two Malbecs from Washington I really liked -- one was from Seven Hills that had the most amazing aromatics, and the other was from Watermill, which is in Milton-Freewater, just over the border from Walla Walla.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by James Dietz » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:34 pm

Jenise wrote:Was that a Syrah or a Pinot? (I'm unaware of any Garys' Syrah.) My favorite Arcadian was an '01 Pisoni that we drank this past June. How interesting that we, old friends that we are now, both love these wines. I think you've caught up with me at last. :)


Yes, there was a 2001 Garys' Syrah. I think Joe made this from 1999-2004.

One of my favorite Pinots has been the 2001 Garys'.

I don't think anyone can catch you, Jenise. But I dearly value what I learned from you, from food to wine to ... life. :wink:
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:15 pm

Bruce K wrote: tartness, bright acidity and minerality of the Loire


Three things that the Substance certainly didn't have! But I get your point regarding Loires and even the unmentioned Cahors, those wines can be quite good. I was sloppy in not making my comment specific to New World versions. As to Washingtons, you force me to remember that I might have had a malbec I liked quite a bit once from Beresan, it had loads of black pepper on it which I found quite fetching. Unfortunately it was also priced at $30 a bottle (basically, all their wines are $30ish a bottle), so it's doomed in the marketplace.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:21 pm

James Dietz wrote:Yes, there was a 2001 Garys' Syrah. I think Joe made this from 1999-2004.
One of my favorite Pinots has been the 2001 Garys'.
I don't think anyone can catch you, Jenise. But I dearly value what I learned from you, from food to wine to ... life. :wink:


You move me to comment that tasting wine often with a few certain friends is the one thing I miss (except, some days, the weather) about life in Southern California, and you're definitely one of them. It's been interesting to watch you build an enviable cellar from afar, but of course it would be even more interesting to frequently sample it. :)
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Diane (Long Island) » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:54 pm

Another Arcadian fan here. I did have the 2004 Westerly Syrah a couple of years ago and my CT note tells me I enjoyed it.

Jenise, I had a 2000 Pisoni Pinot recently, and it was stunning, and a reminder that Joe's wines show best with a good amount of age.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Hoke » Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:47 pm

Jenise, part of the surprised response for Bonterra is due to something that was in development for several years and has come to fruition only in the past few vintages.

Bonterra, under the guidance of Brown-Forman, did both good and bad things for Bonterra. They more than doubled the estate vineyard land by developing a mountain-top plot to complement the valley-floor original vineyard. In this mountain vineyard they meticulously planted a wide range of varieties in a wide range of terroir/soil plots, so they had a vastly increased palette of flavors from which to choose. That development takes a lot of time.

At the same time the winemakers at Bonterra were being forced by the marketing and accounting types to continually cut their cost of production and look for ways to save money to go to profits. So their was some dissonance.

Now Brown-Forman doesn't own the winery any longer, and the new owners are (so far) tending to take a hands off approach with a lean toward quality and brand building, so the best grapes stay there instead of being siphoned off for other brands, and the winemaker enjoys being unleashed to craft the best wines he thinks he can get instead of the wines that most appeal to a broader market base.

What you had in your glass was an indication of that. Under the right management and with the right approach, Bonterra has all that is necessary to become an exceptionally good range of wines with clear expression of flavor from a singular place. There's no doubt in my mind (because I was there when it was all forming) that is possible. Whether it happens or not is up to that constant fight between excellence and honesty versus corporate urgency.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:59 pm

Diane (Long Island) wrote:Another Arcadian fan here.


I know. A recent comment by you sparked another Arcadian shopping spree on my part. If my husband asks you about it, be sure to step up and take the blame. :)
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Jenise » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:03 pm

Hoke wrote:What you had in your glass was an indication of that. Under the right management and with the right approach, Bonterra has all that is necessary to become an exceptionally good range of wines with clear expression of flavor from a singular place. There's no doubt in my mind (because I was there when it was all forming) that is possible. Whether it happens or not is up to that constant fight between excellence and honesty versus corporate urgency.


Great to know, thanks for the details. It sure was surprising to be so pleasantly surprised by an inexpensive California wine. I recall last year being surprised in a good way by their Sauv Blanc, too; which I'd purchased as a free-pour starter for one of our neighborhood tastings. Now that I understand it wasn't a fluke but the way things are going with this winery, I'll pay more attention.
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Hoke » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:15 pm

Since you mentioned the Sauv Blanc:

What they did there was source the SB from one of the coldest area of Lake County, asked for it not to be over-ripe, trucked it directly to the winery, put it right through an extreme anaerobic fermentation, looked over by a winemaker who had just returned from an extended period on the south island of NZ working with SB, and the put it under screwcap with no exposure to oxygen.

They had a little trouble with the first vintage, not allowing for the reductive nature of screwcap and it started to go a bit smelly after about 18 months, but they corrected for that, and now they have a consistent and reliable SB. It's one of my wife's favorites.

Oh, and what I neglected to say in my previous on the Bonterra CS is that lately it has been a much more complex blend of varieties along with the Cabernet because of those combined vineyards. Previously it was primarily CS and Merlot, but now it has lots of small lot varietal additions (a la Jon Bonne's recent article on blends gaining more prominence in California). Their weakest wine for a long time was the Syrah---but I think they've turned the corner on that as well with their newfound ability to blend more varieties (including Viognier/Roussanne).
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Re: WTN: Arcadian, Substance, Gascon Reserve, Bonterra

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:00 pm

Well, I am convinced so will take a bottle of the Bonterra CS please!

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