The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

Anyone know these wines?

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Jim Grow

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1254

Joined

Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:31 am

Location

Rockbridge Ohio

Anyone know these wines?

by Jim Grow » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:41 pm

I just got back from D.C. and picked up some wines new to me that I hope this board could expound upon. Thanks, Jim Grow

Edge Napa Cab. 2003 & 2004
Summers "Andrianna's Cuvee" 2003 Napa Cab.
Worthy "Sophia's Cuvee" 2004 Napa Cab.
Merryvale Res. 2001 Napa Cab. (short note in archives)
Ch. Bel Air Haut-Medoc 2000
Wimmer-Czerny 2003 Roter Veltliner
Karl Steininger 2005 Gruner Veltliner (weird label)
Lucien Albrecht Gew. "Cuvee Marie" 2004
Chas. Koehly 1998 Gew. Saint Hippolyte
Schoffit 2004 Gew. Lieu-Dit Harth cuvee Caroline
no avatar
User

Dale Williams

Rank

Compassionate Connoisseur

Posts

11422

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm

Location

Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Dale Williams » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:23 pm

I haven't had the 2004, but the Worthy (second label of Axios) Sophia's Cuvee is generally a very ripe, forward, thick CalCab. Not a style I drink often, but sometimes I like with a steak, and the Worthy is better (to me) than a lot of similarly priced Cabs.

Haven't had that Gew, but Schoffit is usually pretty good. Others like Albrecht more than I.

Not much help I'm afraid
no avatar
User

Bob Parsons Alberta

Rank

aka Doris

Posts

10808

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:09 pm

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:47 pm

The Alsace `04`s could be good and the `05 GV might be very nice. Have to check out the producer.
no avatar
User

Brian K Miller

Rank

Passionate Arboisphile

Posts

9340

Joined

Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am

Location

Northern California

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Brian K Miller » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:02 am

I've tasted Summers cabs at the winery. Not really my style of Napa Cab (it's at the upper, hot end of the Valley). Very fruit forward, jammy. oaky? None of the secondary flavors that you find in even very young cabs that I prefer.
...(Humans) are unique in our capacity to construct realities at utter odds with reality. Dogs dream and dolphins imagine, but only humans are deluded. –Jacob Bacharach
no avatar
User

Doug House

Rank

Cellar rat

Posts

7

Joined

Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:56 am

Location

Arlington, VA

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Doug House » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:02 am

I'm not sure it's the same wine, but we sell the 2005 Steininger GV Grand Cru. I'm not sure you'd call the label odd, but the wine is closed with a glass "cork". I've tasted the wine a couple of times and think it's delicious, peppery, and long. It's pretty ripe for a GV and has something like 25% new wood, so it might not be for everyone. I enjoy it, though, and the people I've recommended it to have come back to buy more!

Doug
Doug House
ITB - http://www.finewine.com
no avatar
User

Dave Erickson

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

808

Joined

Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:31 pm

Location

Asheville, NC

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Dave Erickson » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:27 am

Doug House wrote:I'm not sure it's the same wine, but we sell the 2005 Steininger GV Grand Cru. I'm not sure you'd call the label odd, but the wine is closed with a glass "cork". I've tasted the wine a couple of times and think it's delicious, peppery, and long. It's pretty ripe for a GV and has something like 25% new wood, so it might not be for everyone. I enjoy it, though, and the people I've recommended it to have come back to buy more!

Doug


Awww, it IS for everyone! It's great stuff! :D

PS: Our labels say "Grand Gru." Odd.
no avatar
User

Jim Grow

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

1254

Joined

Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:31 am

Location

Rockbridge Ohio

Thanks All for the replys

by Jim Grow » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:47 pm

Doug, the Steininger GV is closed with a class closure. I like my Ca. Cabs fruit forward and even a bit jammy so I'll probably like the Summers and Worthy. Wish I knew more about the Edge Cabs.
no avatar
User

Steve Guattery

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

162

Joined

Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:36 am

Location

Central Pennsylvania

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Steve Guattery » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:49 pm

Jim Grow wrote:Karl Steininger 2005 Gruner Veltliner (weird label)

If this is the Steven Holl (Holl is an architect, and did the drawing on the label), I had a bottle about a month ago. We opened this at dinner in a local BYOB restaurant. That night I thought is was a very good, though not particularly distinctive, wine that was worth the $16 it cost in Pennsylvania. About a glass was left over, and I enjoyed it even more the second day, when it showed some interesting, subtle notes on the palate.

This bottle had an interesting closure, by the way. It had a glass stopper with a little rubbery/silicone-like stuff around it to make a seal with the bottle.
no avatar
User

Michael Pronay

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

319

Joined

Mon May 01, 2006 12:47 pm

Location

Vienna, Austria

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Michael Pronay » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:00 am

Steininger's top Grüner Veltliner is "Grand Grü", a play of words, of course.

The glass stopper is the "Vino-Lok", developped by ALCOA Germany. Take a look:

http://www.vino-lok.de/

The site is in English, but without update since its launch three years(!) ago.

Rumors have it that ALCOA US are producing it, too, but with a small difference: A longer cap (that keeps the glass stopper in place), which also implies different bottles.

Rupert Summerer of Langenlois, Kamptal, is the Austria pioneer; he sealed 100% of his 2004 production under glass.
Ceterum censeo corticem esse delendam
no avatar
User

Clinton Macsherry

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

354

Joined

Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:50 pm

Location

Baltimore MD

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Clinton Macsherry » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:15 pm

Ditto what Dale said on the Worthy "Sophie's." The Ch. Bel Air is a very nice, relatively inexpensive cru bourgeios that I've enjoyed from several vintages. Had a 2000 about a month ago that was drinking very well.
FEAR THE TURTLE ! ! !
no avatar
User

JC (NC)

Rank

Lifelong Learner

Posts

6679

Joined

Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:23 pm

Location

Fayetteville, NC

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by JC (NC) » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:38 pm

The 1997 Merryvale C.S. Reserve was very nice! Haven't tried the 2001.
To Doug House, welcome aboard. I've met you and your wife at DC area tastings in the past.
no avatar
User

Doug House

Rank

Cellar rat

Posts

7

Joined

Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:56 am

Location

Arlington, VA

Re: Anyone know these wines?

by Doug House » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:48 pm

Jane, thanks for the online welcome, and I hope you're doing well. I've actually been hanging around this board on and off (mainly the latter, I'm afraid) for nearly 10 years now. I've recently dropped out of consulting to work in a wine store for a while, and I'm hoping that will prompt me to get more active in this community.

Colin and a few others continue to be looking for ways to get a tasting group going on a regular basis, so keep an eye out -- perhaps we'll catch up at an offline again soon!

Doug
Doug House
ITB - http://www.finewine.com

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AhrefsBot, ClaudeBot, Google AgentMatch and 16 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign