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WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

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WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Salil » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:02 pm

2002 Coche-Dury Bourgogne Blanc
Reductive and unyielding at first, but this transforms and unravels with a few hours in a decanter. With time there's a powerful scent of gunflint, smoke and charcoal and an incredible palate presence with lemon and green apple fruit, chalky minerality and herbal notes coming together seamlessly in a remarkably finessed whole. There's a sense of richness and power in the mouth, plenty of acidity keeping it very focused and precise and a finish that just resonates. Tremendous wine.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Rahsaan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Out of curiosity, this is the best white Burgundy you've had? Nothing else has ever come close? In all these dinners you attend, you've never been smitten with a white Burgundy?

Personally, I have never doubted the glory of white Burgundy. But there have always been too many other priorities. And then premox pushes it over the edge.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Salil » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Out of curiosity, this is the best white Burgundy you've had? Nothing else has ever come close? In all these dinners you attend, you've never been smitten with a white Burgundy?

Nope. I've had some other incredible white Burgs in the past, but I'm lucky enough to have friends who'll open the likes of Jadot Demoiselles for me (and various other Jadots) with some frequency, so I've never felt like buying them.

While the likes of Raveneau, Niellon, etc have wowed me before, I've never felt they were worth buying (compared to the cost of say, a great Austrian Gruner or dry Riesling). The Coche though was just the tipping point that made me decide I should actually start buying the odd bottle (for short term consumption - premox issues mean I don't ever plan to cellar them), mainly because of the incredible distinctive aromatics that I've never experienced with any other white.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Rahsaan » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:10 pm

Salil wrote:The Coche though was just the tipping point that made me decide I should actually start buying the odd bottle...mainly because of the incredible distinctive aromatics that I've never experienced with any other white.


Aha, fair enough. Yes, appreciating wines and deciding to actually buy them can be two completely different things!
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Matthew Latuchie » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:01 am

good timing with the note Salil...missed out on a Coche Dury dinner this weekend out in Las Vegas. boo. glad you've finally come over to the dark side.

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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Salil » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:21 am

When you're next in CT, we can warm up with Coche before we get into the Mullers or Truchot. :mrgreen:
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by David M. Bueker » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:13 am

So now you are actually a Coche buyer? I love the wines, but find the value proposition to be debatable at best, and laughable more often than not.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by AlexR » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:05 pm

I enjoyed tremendously a Coche Dury "village" Meursault.
A truly memorable pure, mineral finish (not at all the fatness one can find in that appellation).

It boggles the mind to think what a grand cru from this guy must be like.

Whatever is his secret, because it can't all be about terroir?

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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Maureen N » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:17 pm

whenever I drink a (white) coche, I look around to see who is paving a road nearby.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Frank Drew » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:14 am

Maureen N wrote:whenever I drink a (white) coche, I look around to see who is paving a road nearby.


Crushed rock? Asphalt?

I've only had his '99 Puligny Enseignères, a couple of years ago; it was very good, of course, but with a bit more residual oak than I like. (That's ok, the last thing I need with wines that expensive is to like them so much that I'm tempted to buy them.)
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by David Lole » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:35 pm

Caveat emptor, Salil. Over the three decades I've been drinking fine French white burgundy, one of the most important joys was to seek out the daunting complexities of slow and purposeful bottle development. And to have confidence in the product's longevity! Seeing this hope is no longer a particularly sound proposition, I don't intend to drink, let alone, cellar, mildly interesting but undeveloped and overpriced potential time bombs. I'm glad producers such as Coche-Dury can still, seemingly, deliver the goods for the longer haul. As others have stated before me, their price is now stratospheric and beyond the reach of most mortals.

So, I'm in the process of off-loading all of my more recent purchases - most are still in good condition but the "threat", and I repeat, "threat", of the pox, is everpresent and doesn't sit well with me at all. I now know the absolute power of paranoia. The really funny thing is, I have virtually no fear/anxiety of buying white burgundy from good producers (Leflaive, for example) from not-so-wonderful years such as 1992/1993/1994 - the last several I've bought at auction have all been bloomin' terrific and at a mere fraction of the cost of more recent releases. I just can't understand why more positive steps have not been forthcoming by the French "authorities" (let alone so many producers) to eridicate this scurge? And why so long in the coming? :evil:
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Maureen N » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:44 am

Frank Drew wrote:
Maureen N wrote:whenever I drink a (white) coche, I look around to see who is paving a road nearby.


Crushed rock? Asphalt?


Asphalt. Overwhelmingly so.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by ChaimShraga » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:40 am

Judging from the prices, someone is paving a road with gold bricks.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by AlexR » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:54 am

LOL - ain't it the truth!

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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by ChaimShraga » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:11 pm

A premoxed Francois Jobard Genevrieres 2002 is my number one off bottle of 2011.
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Re: WTN: In which the white Burg bug bites me

by Dale Williams » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:24 pm

White Burg bug or Coche bug? The CD wines are so distinctive. I'll never forget a dinner where John G served a blind white. I had just tasted it, it seemed so unusual that I wasn't sure it was white Burg, when both Jacques Levy and Dan Sullivan confident;y declared it Coche-Dury. But the reason I remember is because Dan was certain and loved it, and Jacques was certain and hated it. :)

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