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SFChron: Winery Water Usage....

by TomHill » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:34 pm

Interesting article in today's SFChron:
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by DerrickSchneider. He's been writing some very interesting stuff for the Chron over the last year. His & JonBonne's articles complement each other nicely.
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by Brian Gilp » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:28 am

Thanks Tom. I wish there were more articles like this one that addressed the challenges of the back side of the house. Alas, most folks don't want to think about these challenges.
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Re: SFChron: Winery Water Usage....

by Bill Hooper » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:51 am

Yes. Well done Parducci. How are the wines? I've never tasted them.

Water usage per capita in Germany is way below that in America and it's expensive. When I tell Germans how much water we use during harvest, most people are pretty shocked. Irrigation used to be illegal (before the 2003 vintage), but hardly anyone uses it. We get far more water in the summer than in southern Europe.

It is terrifying to think about what we're in store for. Something must be done.

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by TomHill » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:50 pm

Bill Hooper wrote:Yes. Well done Parducci. How are the wines? I've never tasted them.
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Well, Bill......back in the '70's, when JohnParducci was owner/winemaker, they were decent/old-timey Calif wines at an
inexpensive price point. It is now owned by the Thornhill's & PaulDolan, who was one time, long ago,
winemaker for Fetzer...back when they made good wines.
The Parducci's I've tasted the last few yrs seemed rather quotidian...just that....not very thrilling.
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Re: SFChron: Winery Water Usage....

by Joe Moryl » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:53 pm

Interesting article.

When I did the cellar rat thing in the Finger Lakes, one of my first tasks was preparing (cleaning, sulfuring) the barrels used in the previous year to receive the wines of the new harvest. This involved copious amounts of water, as did washing down a lot of the other equipment. At one point the well was starting to run dry from the demands we were putting on it and a tanker of water was brought in just in case.

Unlike CA, irrigation in the FL is pretty rare (mainly limited to young vines in extremely dry years). And the wineries are smallish and quite widely spaced around the countryside, so huge amounts of waste water going into a sewer system is not usually an issue.
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Re: Well....

by Bill Hooper » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:45 pm

TomHill wrote:
Bill Hooper wrote:Yes. Well done Parducci. How are the wines? I've never tasted them.
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Well, Bill......back in the '70's, when JohnParducci was owner/winemaker, they were decent/old-timey Calif wines at an
inexpensive price point. It is now owned by the Thornhill's & PaulDolan, who was one time, long ago,
winemaker for Fetzer...back when they made good wines.
The Parducci's I've tasted the last few yrs seemed rather quotidian...just that....not very thrilling.
Tom


Thanks Tom,

A little off-topic, but you've gotten me thinking about how much I like old-timey California wines. I recall the great bottles from the 1970s and 80s that I've had and names like SLWC, Montelena, Burgess, Clos du Val, Ridge, Mount Eden, Pedroncelli, Dry Creek Vineyards, Trefethen and Mayacamas come to mind. I think that for the most part, these guys have stuck pretty true to form. I know that this is a subject for constant debate in some circles, but who do you like that still plays in that genre? For reference, I didn't have any of those wines when they were young (since I was born in '77), and although not from the era I mentioned, I really like producers like Calera, Green and Red, Lang and Reed. California Classic!

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Re: Well....

by TomHill » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:49 pm

Bill Hooper wrote:
TomHill wrote:
Bill Hooper wrote:Yes. Well done Parducci. How are the wines? I've never tasted them.
Cheers,
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Well, Bill......back in the '70's, when JohnParducci was owner/winemaker, they were decent/old-timey Calif wines at an
inexpensive price point. It is now owned by the Thornhill's & PaulDolan, who was one time, long ago,
winemaker for Fetzer...back when they made good wines.
The Parducci's I've tasted the last few yrs seemed rather quotidian...just that....not very thrilling.
Tom

Thanks Tom,
A little off-topic, but you've gotten me thinking about how much I like old-timey California wines. I recall the great bottles from the 1970s and 80s that I've had and names like SLWC, Montelena, Burgess, Clos du Val, Ridge, Mount Eden, Pedroncelli, Dry Creek Vineyards, Trefethen and Mayacamas come to mind. I think that for the most part, these guys have stuck pretty true to form. I know that this is a subject for constant debate in some circles, but who do you like that still plays in that genre? For reference, I didn't have any of those wines when they were young (since I was born in '77), and although not from the era I mentioned, I really like producers like Calera, Green and Red, Lang and Reed. California Classic!
Cheers,
Bill

Those latter ones you mention, Bill, are good ones of that genre. And I like the DryCreekVnyds wines as being pretty true to the origibal vision of DaveStare.
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