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Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by TomHill » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:09 pm

Well.....none other than Zinfandel. I have, of course, followed Tribidrag from the very start.
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My Croatian research colleagues have long suspected that the old Croatian grape variety Tribidrag was the same as Crljenak kastelanski, which is the modern Croatian name for Zinfandel. They have now confirmed this by purifying and analyzing DNA from an old herbarium specimen of Tribidrag and comparing it to Zinfandel. The DNA profiles are a perfect match. Tribidrag is documented to have been grown in Croatia for at least 500 years.
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by SteveEdmunds » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:55 pm

Pronuciation, please!
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by SteveEdmunds » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:59 pm

Anagram: I R DIRTBAG
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by Carole Meredith » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:52 pm

Pronounced just like it sounds. (In contrast to many other varieties from that part of the world.) And then there's also Pribidrag, another name for the same variety. And we can't forget Kratosija, yet another name. My Croatian research colleagues and I have taken to referring to the variety as ZPC (for Zinfandel/Primitivo/Crljenak kastelanski), but I guess we should really call it ZPCTPK.
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by Jon Leifer » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:42 pm

whatever happened to good old Plavic Mali(spelling?) or soemthing close enough?
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by Mark Lipton » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:37 pm

Jon Leifer wrote:whatever happened to good old Plavic Mali(spelling?) or soemthing close enough?


A relative, but not genetically identical. Mike Grgich championed it as the ancestral Zinfandel, but later Prof. Meredith found that it was a scion of Zinfandel resulting from a cross between it and Dobričić.

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Uhhhhhh....

by TomHill » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:00 am

Carole Meredith wrote:Pronounced just like it sounds. (In contrast to many other varieties from that part of the world.) And then there's also Pribidrag, another name for the same variety. And we can't forget Kratosija, yet another name. My Croatian research colleagues and I have taken to referring to the variety as ZPC (for Zinfandel/Primitivo/Crljenak kastelanski), but I guess we should really call it ZPCTPK.


Uhhhhh, Carole....Steve played hooky the day they covered pronunciation in 3'rd grade.
You'd better help him w/ the pronunciation on that last one!!!! :-)
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Re: Today's Geek Question: What Is Tribidrag???

by Jon Leifer » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:51 pm

Mark: appreciate the reply and no, I am not sorry I asked, will prevent me from continuing to make an ongoing mistake re Plavic Mali and zin, will now just say that it originated from the dirtbag grape and refer all questions in that regard to Steve
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