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WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Salil » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:22 pm

Leo's blind tasting group got together again last night - this time David Lazer provided the wines and we had dinner at Restaurant Saul in Brooklyn. Lots of fun as always, an eclectic mix of wines with a few really impressive bottles. Plus the food and wine service were outstanding, I'll certainly have to head back.

Flight 1:
2007 V Madrone Chardonnay (Napa Valley)
Very rich and ripe, combining soft peachy fruit with floral elements and vanilla/oaky accents. This has a very creamy, slightly waxy texture with low acidity; pleasant for a few sips but the lack of acidity makes it come across heavy and tiring after that.

2001 Kongsgaard Chardonnay (Napa Valley)
Slightly oxidised and over the hill. The fruit's tired and dull, dominated by butterscotch-like elements with no freshness or depth.

2007 Rex Hill Vineyards Chardonnay (Willamette Valley)
Quite pleasant initially with fresh pear and green apple fruit up front, light on its feet and nervy with bright acids, but there's also a faint sour/underripe character on the back end, and not much in the way of depth/complexity.

Flight 2:
2005 Pisoni Pinot Noir Estate (Santa Lucia Highlands)
Really confected and jammy, full of monolithic red fruits with a candied sweetness to the flavours and barely any acidity.

2005 Bouchard Père et Fils Beaune 1er Cru Grèves Vigne de L'Enfant Jesus
Comes across rather restrained and closed, showing quiet red fruited flavours and some savoury earthy notes around a spine of firm tannins. More about promise than anything else right now.

2005 Domaine Drouhin Oregon Pinot Noir Laurène (Willamette Valley)
Very ripe and extracted, full of heavy, confected red fruits and berries without much acidity or any sense of freshness and elegance.

Flight 3:
2001 Le Clos du Caillou Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine du Caillou Les Quartz
Full of ripe cherries and blackberries combined with savoury earthy elements and a faint roasted note; still quite primary and fruit-forward with a fair bit of tannin. Quite pleasant, though this still has a fair bit of time ahead.

2001 Schwarz Rot "W" (Burgenland, Austria)
Yikes - what happened here? Nothing like my last experience with this wine, this bottle's dominated by roasted coffee and oaky flavours that obliterate the fruit and any other nuance.

2001 Rotllan Torra Priorat Tirant
Hideously corked.

2007 Bodegas Alto Moncayo Campo de Borja Veraton (Aragón, Spain)
Bombs away! Monstrously overripe (I think the alcohol level was around 16.5%), heavy and incredibly alcoholic. Yuck.

Flight 4:
1997 Dalla Valle Maya (Napa Valley)
Don't think this is a representative/pristine bottle. Quite advanced for its age with developed red fruited flavours and a strange balsamic note.

2000 Château Léoville Poyferré (St. Julien)
Fantastic. This is in a great place right now, still showing plenty of primary cassis and dark fruited flavours, but augmented by cedary and herbal notes and the start of developing leathery/earthy flavours. Quite rich, conveying power with a sense of restraint and great balance.

2004 Bodegas El Nido Jumilla Clio (Jumilla)
Woody and alcoholic.

Flight 5:
1988 Château Margaux
Really disappointing to see this unveiled as an '88 Margaux, showing none of the finesse or depth I'd expect from an older Margaux (or any top Bordeaux for that matter). Dense red and dark fruit accented with licorice and a strange fennel note, rather monolithic and dull.

2005 Casa Lapostolle Clos Apalta (Colchagua Valley, Chile)
I liked this a lot more on release. There's not much in terms of flavour development; the fruit's taken a bit of a step back, the oak and herbal flavour elements here are more prominent and it finishes with some alcoholic warmth.

1998 Tenuta dell'Ornellaia Bolgheri Superiore Ornellaia (Tuscany)
Outstanding. Comes across like a classical older Bordeaux with a seamless combination of rich dark fruits, cedar, tobacco, fresh herbs and an exotic sandalwood element. It's still very youthful with plenty of primary fruit and a fair bit of tannin, but it's drinking incredibly well now, very polished and finessed with fantastic depth and persistence.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Zachary Ross » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:53 pm

Nice notes.

Saul is great - among the best restaurants in Brooklyn. I used to live less than one block from there and went often. Glad it's still great.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Jeff Grossman » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:04 am

Wow, what a bunch of awful-sounding wines (except for one or two). Better you than me, Salil.

I must admit to an on-again-off-again relationship with Saul. I've had nights that are hits and nights that are misses.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Zachary Ross » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:58 am

Guess I've just been lucky with Saul.

Did you see that Colonie got a new chef? The NYT noted this week: "Brad McDonald, whose résumé lists Alain Ducasse at the Essex House, Per Se and Noma, is the new executive chef at Colonie in Brooklyn Heights, replacing Alex Sorenson, who is planning his own restaurant."
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Jeff Grossman » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:29 pm

Zachary Ross wrote:Did you see that Colonie got a new chef? The NYT noted this week: "Brad McDonald, whose résumé lists Alain Ducasse at the Essex House, Per Se and Noma, is the new executive chef at Colonie in Brooklyn Heights, replacing Alex Sorenson, who is planning his own restaurant."

I had not seen that. (Maybe I'll catch it later when I make the rounds of the Brooklyn-based blogs?)

I think I have mentioned to you that I went to Colonie only once and was utterly underwhelmed.

Interesting that Sorenson is leaving so soon, given the hoopla over the KickStarter project (...which, you'd think, would build long-lasting team amity).
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Zachary Ross » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:43 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:
Zachary Ross wrote:Did you see that Colonie got a new chef? The NYT noted this week: "Brad McDonald, whose résumé lists Alain Ducasse at the Essex House, Per Se and Noma, is the new executive chef at Colonie in Brooklyn Heights, replacing Alex Sorenson, who is planning his own restaurant."

I had not seen that. (Maybe I'll catch it later when I make the rounds of the Brooklyn-based blogs?)

I think I have mentioned to you that I went to Colonie only once and was utterly underwhelmed.

Interesting that Sorenson is leaving so soon, given the hoopla over the KickStarter project (...which, you'd think, would build long-lasting team amity).



True. Perhaps the middling review Colonie received from the NYT less than a month ago prompted some soul searching.

I have not been but I know others who have and each has noted a distinct lack of whelm.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Diane (Long Island) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:37 pm

Salil - could you describe the food served with each flight?
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Marc D » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:58 pm

I have tried some very pretty and elegant versions of the Domaine Drouhin Laurene. The '99 a couple of years ago was outstanding.
I would hope that the '05 is just too young, unless something has changed there. I have not tasted the '05 but this sounds disappointing.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Ian Sutton » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:33 pm

I tasted that vintage of Ornellaia twice last year and was on both occasions thoroughly impressed with it. A real joy to drink & nice to see it shine in a blind tasting as well.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Diane (Long Island) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:21 pm

Rereading your notes, Salil, the description of the Kongsgaard could apply to every one of their Chards I've tasted. Even some younger ones...tired and oxidized.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Jay Miller » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:57 pm

the food at Saul was quite good but it was much much too noisy for me.

The wines were ... mostly not my style of wine.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Dale Williams » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:14 pm

Jay Miller wrote:The wines were ... mostly not my style of wine.


'm shocked, shocked to find that out. Let's see

Kongsgaard/Pisoni/Châteauneuf/Dalla Valle Maya/El Nido/Clos Apalta/Ornellaia/recent Poyferre

:)

Actually, count yourself lucky it was just the Clio, it's a vision of elegance and grace compared to the flagship El Nido

thanks Salil for notes
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Salil » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:27 pm

Diane (Long Island) wrote:Salil - could you describe the food served with each flight?

Flight 1: Everybody else had something with scallops; as I have issues digesting seafood, the restaurant substituted a soup of green peas and chives which I thought was outstanding.

Flight 2: Toulouse garlic sausage (with cabbage, if I remember the accompaniment correctly) - very garlicky and enjoyable.

Flight 3: Pan-roasted sweetbread (veal, I think), don't remember the plating/sauce details but again very good.

Flights 4 & 5: Braised short ribs (outstanding) and a steak cut I don't recollect and didn't enjoy too much (not being a huge fan of particularly rare meat).

We also had a couple of rounds of baked Alaska for dessert which were very good (particularly the meringue). Liked the restaurant a great deal, and given the wine service (particularly with several glasses per person per flight), I'd certainly head back there again.
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Jay Miller » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:46 pm

Salil wrote:
Diane (Long Island) wrote:Salil - could you describe the food served with each flight?


Flights 4 & 5: Braised short ribs (outstanding) and a steak cut I don't recollect and didn't enjoy too much (not being a huge fan of particularly rare meat).


As someone who is a fan of rare meat I can say that I really liked the rib-eye (I think that was the cut but wouldn't swear to it).
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Re: WTN: Blind tasting in Brooklyn

by Jeff Grossman » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:29 pm

Zachary Ross wrote:I have not been but I know others who have and each has noted a distinct lack of whelm.

I think it gets buzz only from people who recently moved to the area (...who crave the recent cachet but who don't really understand what it means to live in a 100+-year-old house in a small neighborhood).

Which is silly: if you're nostalgic for Manhattan atmosphere, then go live there... why go elsewhere and then try to change it?

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