
Ron DiLauro
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Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:26 am
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Ron DiLauro wrote:There is no question that finer wine tastings can be appreciated by those with totally educated and experienced palates...
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Your story about Château Batailley reinforces a notion I have that some people have a gas liquid phase chromatograph-like ability to analyze the chemicals they are imbibing. These chemicals in wines change as they evolve over time so that with experience of particular developments such a taster can know from an early profile where the wine is going. Robert Parker appears to have this ability.
Jenise wrote:Your story about Château Batailley reinforces a notion I have that some people have a gas liquid phase chromatograph-like ability to analyze the chemicals they are imbibing. These chemicals in wines change as they evolve over time so that with experience of particular developments such a taster can know from an early profile where the wine is going. Robert Parker appears to have this ability.
My observation is that it's merely a matter of a trained palate with great palate memory tasting barrel samples and eventually bottled product over and over again. No different, actually, than putting all the neccessary ingredients into a braise and knowing what the dish is going to taste like two hours later when some flavors soften and others ripen. Most of us don't get both opportunities, so we don't develop the skill.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Covert wrote:Jenise, I have been reading a little about perception recently. There are very pronounced differences in individual ability to discern things. For example, depending on the size of a certain little part of the brain, a person can tell if two horizontal lines, one on top and one on the bottom of the page, are the same length or not. Everybody can be educated somewhat, but only to some extent. I am quite sure that the guy next door could be right next to Parker through all of Parker’s tastings, but would never be able to discern in wine what Parker can – but I can’t prove my opinion, right now, anyway.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
my Montrachet in Paris
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Hoke wrote:my Montrachet in Paris
Sounds like a very interesting story...
Kelly Young wrote:There's discerning and then there's enjoying and the two are not necessarily the same thing.
Jenise wrote:Covert wrote:Jenise, I have been reading a little about perception recently. There are very pronounced differences in individual ability to discern things. For example, depending on the size of a certain little part of the brain, a person can tell if two horizontal lines, one on top and one on the bottom of the page, are the same length or not. Everybody can be educated somewhat, but only to some extent. I am quite sure that the guy next door could be right next to Parker through all of Parker’s tastings, but would never be able to discern in wine what Parker can – but I can’t prove my opinion, right now, anyway.
Oh I agree with that completely. I didn't say "any two people", but rather, my example presumed that the persons who did and did not get the opportunity to taste barrel samples were had otherwise equally talented and experienced palates. Some people can NEVER be trained.
'Discern' is the operative word, but there's a second factor I think. Caring. The difference in what one discerns has to matter. Back to food, in my life I've known people who can go eat the finest meal and agree that it's the finest meal they've ever had, but they happily go home and back to the same Hamburger Helper. The meal of a lifetime isn't life-changing. Their personal standards remain virtually unchanged by their experience. They do not seek perfection. Same with wine. Experience is part of the training, but for everybody on this board if we didn't have the raw material, the receptors to appreciate that the epiphany wine we all seem to have had at some point (your Chasse Spleen, my Montrachet in Paris, Parker's summer in France) was indeed the start of a tireless pursuit, then we'd all be drinking Yellow Tail.
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