The place for all things wine, focused on serious wine discussions.

Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

Moderators: Jenise, Robin Garr, David M. Bueker

no avatar
User

Bill Spohn

Rank

He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'

Posts

11162

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm

Location

Vancouver BC

Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Bill Spohn » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:07 pm

They banned Absinthe in most of Europe just before the first world war, on the theory that the thujone contained in it drove men mad.

Portugal was the last country to ban it just before the second world war. A friend has a pre-ban bottle. which must be very rare by now, as being the real stuff. Manufacturing has restarted in Europe from about 1990, with some limits on the thujone content.

I shall be indulging in a taste of the 'Green Fairy' next week at a dinner tasting of various curiosities. Although science says that the driving men mad thing was baseless, you may want to keep an eye on my posts after that date for signs of dementia.....

Should be interesting to sip along with Rimbaud, Verlaine, Van Gogh and Wilde - I'll let you know.

Image
no avatar
User

Jenise

Rank

FLDG Dishwasher

Posts

45476

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm

Location

The Pacific Northest Westest

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Jenise » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:15 pm

Bill, you might want to make sure the host drinks his pour before you start on your own--especially if he's also a client. :)
My wine shopping and I have never had a problem. Just a perpetual race between the bankruptcy court and Hell.--Rogov
no avatar
User

Jeff Grossman

Rank

Lifelong Learner

Posts

8140

Joined

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:56 am

Location

NYC

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Jeff Grossman » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:43 pm

OK. Then to what should we attribute all the symptoms of dementia up till now? :lol:
no avatar
User

Matt Richman

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

623

Joined

Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:16 pm

Location

Brooklyn, NY

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Matt Richman » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:45 pm

Best thread title since "Looking for Mr. Good Barolo".
no avatar
User

Bill Spohn

Rank

He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'

Posts

11162

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm

Location

Vancouver BC

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Bill Spohn » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:51 pm

Jeff Grossman/NYC wrote:OK. Then to what should we attribute all the symptoms of dementia up till now? :lol:


A diet with insufficient foie gras content! Just makes me CRAZY!! Image
no avatar
User

Jon Peterson

Rank

The Court Winer

Posts

2981

Joined

Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm

Location

The Blue Crab State

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Jon Peterson » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:53 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:.... you may want to keep an eye on my posts after that date for signs of dementia.....


...or genius, perhaps. As I understand it, the effects of thujone can go to either extreme.
no avatar
User

Bill Spohn

Rank

He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'

Posts

11162

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm

Location

Vancouver BC

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Bill Spohn » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:03 pm

Jon Peterson wrote:...or genius, perhaps. As I understand it, the effects of thujone can go to either extreme.


Hey, I'm happy to go with that!
no avatar
User

Jon Peterson

Rank

The Court Winer

Posts

2981

Joined

Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:53 pm

Location

The Blue Crab State

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Jon Peterson » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:17 pm

Do you think you will be taking the Absinthe in the traditional manner with ice water, sugar cube and Absinthe spoon or mixing it as in a Sazerac? I'd really be interested in your observations and impressions afterwood. I'd love to taste 'real' Absinthe.
no avatar
User

Hoke

Rank

Achieving Wine Immortality

Posts

11420

Joined

Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am

Location

Portland, OR

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Hoke » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:25 pm

you may want to keep an eye on my posts after that date for signs of dementia.....


How can we tell? 8)

The absinthe thing has already peaked. Or to use another metaphor, it surged suddenly, then ebbed quickly. It got a storm of attention, and several enthusiasts jumped into production---and used the attention to try to justify some pretty damned astronomical prices, frankly---and suddenly the shelf was jammed with numerous brand new bottles.

And almost as quickly as they got churned up, they lost their appeal. Turns out there is only so much call for absinthe and the supply vastly exceeded the demand. Now absinthe, having gotten over its initial fascination---largely generated from the buzz about the legend---has receded back to the level of having one or two for the occasional sale.

About the same as the candy aisle---a couple people, maybe a few, like black licorice. But more people like chocolate on a regular basis. 8)

Still, it brought back to prominence another flavor/texture component, added a little ceremony to the bar through the visul prep of absinthe, and gave bartender/mixologists some more ideas and opportunities. So it was a good thing.
no avatar
User

Bill Spohn

Rank

He put the 'bar' in 'barrister'

Posts

11162

Joined

Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:31 pm

Location

Vancouver BC

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Bill Spohn » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:34 pm

Jon Peterson wrote:Do you think you will be taking the Absinthe in the traditional manner with ice water, sugar cube and Absinthe spoon or mixing it as in a Sazerac? I'd really be interested in your observations and impressions afterwood. I'd love to taste 'real' Absinthe.


I'm going to ask for mine without sugar, simply diluted with a bit of water. Not sure how they plan on doing it for the others. Doubt the restaurant has any absinthe spoons handy, although they (and the little holders with taps for ice water) are available on line.

I will probably ask for the Absinthe neat so I can do my usual tasting regime I use for single malts - nose, taste, water, nose, taste.
no avatar
User

Glenn Mackles

Rank

Ultra geek

Posts

451

Joined

Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:52 am

Location

Virginia

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Glenn Mackles » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:43 pm

I didn't think one was allowed to visit New Orleans without having at least one Sazerac. Or maybe that's just me.

Glenn
"If you can find something everyone agrees on, it's wrong." Mo Udall
no avatar
User

Hoke

Rank

Achieving Wine Immortality

Posts

11420

Joined

Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am

Location

Portland, OR

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Hoke » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:12 pm

Glenn Mackles wrote:I didn't think one was allowed to visit New Orleans without having at least one Sazerac. Or maybe that's just me.

Glenn


Or maybe it's just you that has one? 8)
no avatar
User

Mike Filigenzi

Rank

Known for his fashionable hair

Posts

8404

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm

Location

Sacramento, CA

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Mike Filigenzi » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:57 am

Bill Spohn wrote:I'm going to ask for mine without sugar, simply diluted with a bit of water. Not sure how they plan on doing it for the others. Doubt the restaurant has any absinthe spoons handy, although they (and the little holders with taps for ice water) are available on line.

I will probably ask for the Absinthe neat so I can do my usual tasting regime I use for single malts - nose, taste, water, nose, taste.


I'll be interested in hearing what you think of that, Bill. The absinthe I've had benefits greatly from water and sugar. It can be pretty overpowering on its own.
"People who love to eat are always the best people"

- Julia Child
no avatar
User

Peter May

Rank

Pinotage Advocate

Posts

4086

Joined

Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:24 am

Location

Snorbens, England

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Peter May » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:46 am

With due respect, Absinthe iis meant - designed - to be drunk after ice water is added. If you drink neat you don't get the louche so you also miss out on the colour, which varies widely between the various brands from almost neon bright green to smokey bluish green. Also its much more alcoholic than whisky.

Absinthe was never banned in the UK and although banned in France Pernod continued to make traditional Absinthe for export (while making Pastis for the home market).

It went through a fashion phase in late 1980's London clubs and the London wine experience 'Vinopolis' has (had?) a Absinthe tasting counter (I've not been there for some years). The London Wine & Spirits Fair had Absinthe master classes some years ago comparing 8 Absinthes from different sources.

My favourite brand for drinking is 'Pernod 68'* though I nowadays rarely drink spirits or liqueurs, stickingto wine.

I always did like ouzo and pastis in my younger days and got through a lot but I think while Absithe is a nice drink in the same area, the hype behind it is ridiculous

*68 denotes the alcohol by volume.
no avatar
User

Noel Ermitano

Rank

Wine guru

Posts

850

Joined

Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:28 am

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Noel Ermitano » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:17 am

I have some of the Verte Suisse 65 Absinthe at home.

Image

It's good stuff and I do enjoy the long mellow buzz it gives.
no avatar
User

Daniel Rogov

Rank

Resident Curmudgeon

Posts

0

Joined

Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 am

Location

Tel Aviv, Israel

Re: Absinthe Makes the Heart Grow Fonder?

by Daniel Rogov » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:27 pm

Very possibly because people have been reading this thread, I have received several questions about Absinthe. For those who might be interested, I have posted an article on my side of the forum at viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37149

Best
Rogov

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AhrefsBot, ClaudeBot, iphone swarm, Rahsaan, Ripe Bot and 7 guests

Powered by phpBB ® | phpBB3 Style by KomiDesign