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WTN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

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WTN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by geo t. » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:49 pm

1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa, $14.97, 13% alc.: This has really developed and is maturing well since the last time we had it, and perhaps surprisingly (or not), we found one last bottle in the same Marshfield, Massachusetts Blanchard’s outlet where we bought the previous one. Some rust has invaded the dark garnet color, all fading at the rim, and some nice secondary characteristics are starting to develop in both flavor and aroma, with smoke, leather and iron complementing the black and red plums and berries, with earth, underbrush and a wee bit of the barnyard in the background. Smooth, yet still well structured, with a good, long finish, it has an almost Châteauneuf du Pape-like personality; it may not yet be at its peak, and it’s certainly not likely to fade any time soon, and if I had any more, I’d pair it with a roasted leg of lamb with rosemary and garlic.

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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by Brian K Miller » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:21 am

Cool. I have a bottle of 2002. I'm looking forward to trying it when appropriate.
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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by Rahsaan » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:38 am

Cool. I have a bottle of 2002. I'm looking forward to trying it when appropriate.


My guess would be the 02 wouldn't go very long, but I could be wrong, and I guess 97 was a bit of a washout in Souther France as well? I know very little about vintages in the region, let alone this wine.
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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by robs_r » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:25 am

I had the '99 some moths ago. Very pleasent and fully mature but in no danger of decline.

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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by OW Holmes » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:45 am

Has anybody had the '98?
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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by geo t. » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:00 pm

OW Holmes wrote:Has anybody had the '98?
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Haven't had the '98, OW, but I've read some raves about it on another forum today. Had the '99 a few days after the '97; here are my notes:

1999 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa, $14.97, 14% alc.: This inky beast presents an interesting contrast to the ’97, giving up something like a theoretical blend of earthy underbrush, mahogany and flat root beer; there is a core of dark plum and blackberry, but it’s showing more secondary characteristics than the older model, and yet it still has significant structure and concentration. It opens dramatically with air, becoming more and more harmonious, and drinks fairly well already, but it’s really in an intermediate period, and needs another two or three years minimum. If you just can’t wait and have to open one now, give it an hour in a decanter before drinking.

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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by Dale Williams » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:51 pm

OW Holmes wrote:Has anybody had the '98?
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From Feb:
the oak has integrated for the most part, now an accent not the heart of the mix. Nice smoky blackberry Syrah fruit, big but with a sense of sprightliness. I drank my others too early. This is quite pleasing now, with leather and grilled meat aromas over the deep dark fruit. Good finish
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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by geo t. » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:51 pm

Dale Williams wrote:
OW Holmes wrote:Has anybody had the '98?
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From Feb:
the oak has integrated for the most part, now an accent not the heart of the mix. Nice smoky blackberry Syrah fruit, big but with a sense of sprightliness. I drank my others too early. This is quite pleasing now, with leather and grilled meat aromas over the deep dark fruit. Good finish


Thanks Dale; wish we had a few of these...

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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by OW Holmes » Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:07 pm

geo t. wrote:
Dale Williams wrote:
OW Holmes wrote:Has anybody had the '98?
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From Feb:
the oak has integrated for the most part, now an accent not the heart of the mix. Nice smoky blackberry Syrah fruit, big but with a sense of sprightliness. I drank my others too early. This is quite pleasing now, with leather and grilled meat aromas over the deep dark fruit. Good finish


Thanks Dale; wish we had a few of these...

:!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :wink:


And I wish I had more than one.
Thanks, all...
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Re: TN: 1997 Domaine Clavel Coteaux du Languedoc La Copa Santa

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:04 pm

Whilst we are here chatting about Languedoc reds, have to put a plug in for a termendous white. The `04 La Brise Marine from Ch de la Negly. A blend of Bourboulenc, Marsanne and Rousanne and wonderful with crab cakes!! This is the 2nd bottle I have opened recently. Any thoughts on their reds??

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