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WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Keith M » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:04 pm

The October meeting of the San Francisco chapter of the German Wine Society offered a chance for all of us riesling lovers to taste the other varieties of German wine grapes—from regions both well-known to us as well as those more rarely seen in the United States. With a very useful guide to these unusual grapes in hand (helpfully assembled and distributed by our very own Von) the journey into the lesser traveled pathways of German wine had begun. First off from Rheinhessen, the 2008 Muhlenhoff Müller Thurgau Trocken called into question esteemed wine writer Hugh Johnson's diatribes against the grape (a cross of riesling and madeleine royale). Unlike the more unfortunate overcropped versions, this one was plush in fruit but dry. Tangy simple fruit. Nothing complex, but certainly a crisp pleasant table wine. Always excited to see a Franken entry (even one, alas, not in bocksbeutel), I found the 2007 Hans Wirsching Iphöfer Kronsberg Scheurebe Kabinett Trocken a lovely and unusual less ripe approach to scheurebe. Pleasant and crisp on the nose and fruity and yet crisp in the mouth—very pleasant. I far preferred it to the competing scheurebe, the 2008 Kruger-Rumpf Scheurebe Trocken from the Nahe (though there were differing opinions on this across the room—so my Franken boosterism must be taken into account). Minty eucalyptus on the nose (thanks Shane!) it tasted very loose and, to me, lacked focus. Others found it more playful and fun. Back to Franken (this time in bocksbeutel!) for what was for many (including myself) the wine of the night—the 2008 Graf von Schönborn Silvaner Kabinett Trocken. Layered but silent nose, taste slightly salty, very structured, excellent potential here and very bright but earthy—cool! The 2009 Dostert Alva Elbling from the Mosel sparked some different takes among members. The ancient grape often finds its way into sekt due to its firm acid backbone, and this one showed tart and tight as well. Some found it an interesting alternative to sauvignon blanc, but I found the juicy-fruit nature of the acid to be a bit much. Another great region I love to see, Baden contributed the 2009 Ziereisen Heugumber Gutedel—gutedel (meaning good and noble, a modest name indeed) is known as chasselas in neighboring Switzerland). Herbaceous, tart and simple—not my favorite of the tasting and a bit challenging. The 2008 Schloss Saarstein Pinot Blanc from the Saar went for the French name rather than the weissburgunder we all know and love. In any case, it had the nose of a fir tree and though tart offered pretty good definition. A tangy wine. Another contender for wine of the evening for folks around the room was the 2008 Müller-Catoir Hardt Muskateller Trocken from the Pfalz. A much, much riper nose than the previous three wines, the taste was refined, still tart yet bursting with beautiful flavor. Nicely rounded and a fun wine to drink. The sweetest entry for the evening was undoubtedly the 2008 Pfeffingen Gewürztraminer Spätlese, also from the Pfalz. Very rich nose, plush and sugar-filled in the mouth. Slight spice emboldened with a healthy dollop of sugar. Not my thing. Onto the reds, the 2008 Schnaitmann Lemberger from the rarely-seen-stateside Württemberg region was my favorite red of the night. Distinctive grape roll-up nose, yet tart, lean, tight and crisp in taste. Very firm edges that were very welcome in this wine—a distinctive approach to lemberger I'd gladly drink again. The 2008 A. Christmann Spätburgunder from the Pfalz had a crazy light color and unusual nose that reminded me of an undefined animal. Very spicy and unusual. The 2006 Julius Wasem & Sohne Ingleheimer Sonnenhang Spätburgunder Trocken from the Rheinhessen was also spicy, but felt a bit looser and less well defined. More tang here. Finally, Harris generously opened and shared his bottle of Becker Spätburgunder “R” from the Pfalz. Beautiful, generous fruit, firmness and definition. A beautiful wine and a fantastic end to the evening.
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Bill Hooper » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:24 pm

Nice, Keith! I'm always glad to see the supporting cast get some well deserved applause, and with M-C, Schnaitmann, Wirsching, and Becker, some of my favorites too. I'm shocked to see that Gutedel and Elbling are actually exported (though I have a soft spot for Gutedel.) Thanks for the notes!

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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Keith M » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:32 pm

Yeah, Bill, we even have a Roter Elbling that makes out to these parts as a rosé/Weissherbst. Can't say I have any great love for the grape as of yet . . .
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Keith M » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:33 pm

Also didn't realize Schnaitmann was a noted producer in Württemberg--but I didn't explore Württemberg wines even when I lived there. Any other Württemberg producers that stand out for you?
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Dale Williams » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:50 pm

cool theme, and nice notes
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Bill Hooper » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:20 pm

Keith M wrote:Also didn't realize Schnaitmann was a noted producer in Württemberg--but I didn't explore Württemberg wines even when I lived there. Any other Württemberg producers that stand out for you?


Adelmann, Aldinger and Neipperg along with Schnaitmann are the big four. I'm going to make a prediction though: Württemberg will be the next region to be 'discovered'. It has some very good terroir, though most of it is currently planted with the local Trollinger and the like to merely serve Stuttgart locals. The only thing holding it back is that it is, for the most part, red-wine country and export markets haven't been too keen on German reds (even though their Austrian counterparts enjoy more success.) More Riesling is being planted too and there is certainly a lot of buzz about the region here.

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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Salil » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:30 pm

Nice lineup - sounds like a great tasting, lots of producers I'm very unfamiliar with and haven't seen around the US a lot or at all.

(Though with that theme, you really needed some Albalonga and a MC Rieslaner in there! ;))
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Bill Hooper » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:24 pm

Salil wrote:Nice lineup - sounds like a great tasting, lots of producers I'm very unfamiliar with and haven't seen around the US a lot or at all.

(Though with that theme, you really needed some Albalonga and a MC Rieslaner in there! ;))


And a Wittmann Albalonga at that!
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Salil » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:38 pm

I thought that was already inferred, I can't think of others who do much (at least anything noteworthy) with Albalonga. ;)
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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Bill Hooper » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:20 pm

There are a producer or two in Franken who make a decent go of it, but you're right. No one really comes close to Wittmann.

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Re: WTN: GWS anything but riesling

by Andrew Bair » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:29 pm

Hi Keith - Thank you for the very interesting notes. I like the GWS' idea of a no-Riesling event for a change.

I have liked the Wirsching wines in the past, including the Kronsberg Scheu, but have not had an 07 yet. Earlier this month, I tried the Schloss Mühlenhof M-T that you mention, and would personally put in under the heading of well made, but rather boring. Am glad you liked it, though.

Also,the Schnaitmann Lemberger sounds really nice. I have only had one wine from Württemberg thus far (a very ripe 2003 von Neipperg Spätburgunder im Barrique that I didn't care for), but do enjoy Lemberger/Blaufränkisch, and would even be happy to try some of the better Trollingers from that region.

As for Roter Elbing - I was under the impression that it was a pink-skinned grape, and that the Dostert 'Rosay' that you refer to is not technically a Weissherbst, but more along the line of a Pinot Gris vinified with skin contact in that it results in a pinkish-colored wine. :?: Maybe I'm wrong here. BTW, I wasn't too impressed with that wine, either.

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