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WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Salil » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:05 am

Spencer got a group of us together at the Mill to open a spectacular array of wines from his cellar. Was great to see some good friends again after a while out of the country. A very fun evening in a lovely setting with good food and some stunning wines (when they weren't affected by closures). The Chave and Trollat were highlights of the night for me, followed by the slow cooked pork belly that was the standout item among the food.

1999 Philipponnat Clos des Goisses Champagne
Starts out aggressively dry, to the point that it feels slightly austere with bracingly tart fruit flavours around a strong acid spine. There's a musty aroma that gets worse with time - yup, corked. Sigh.

1989 Trimbach Riesling Cuvée Frédéric Emile Vendange Tardive
Stunning Riesling, showing an incredible array of flavours in a seamless package with incredible balance and persistence. The first impression is of rich, honeyed white fruits and apples, but with time this keeps unravelling to show other herbal, mineral and developed smoky flavours, turning dry on the back end as a savoury earthiness emerges to counter the understated sweetness. There's a sense of real polish and gloss to the texture, with a developed creaminess and fantastic length.

2004 Bonneau du Martray Corton-Charlemagne
Oxidising, with a nasty, sherried overlay to the rich fruit and herbal flavours here. Ugh.

1966 Château Montrose
Bottle looked in very good condition with the cork coming out in one piece and a pretty high fill. But it's hideously corked. FFS.

1983 Domaine Jean-Louis Chave Hermitage
Spectacular stuff. It's hard to move past the fragrance here, which just keeps expanding with air and combines all sorts of meaty, leathery, smoky, rusty and red fruited elements into an intoxicating scent that's beyond description. Unreal finesse and elegance in the mouth, conveying flavour with barely any sense of weight and a polished, satiny texture. Tremendous length and presence, with each sip staying with you and the last few being the best - what a treat.

1995 Raymond Trollat St. Joseph Vieilles Vignes
Starts out with a core of olives and dark berried fruit accented by gentle spice, meaty and saline notes. Very elegant with a sense of restrained power, with the meaty and fruit flavours building slowly with time until this eventually tastes like equal parts pork sausage and olives. Wonderful wine that was an incredible companion and contrast to the Chave, complementing its developed complexity with more primary and raw fruit and meat flavours, but the same sense of elegance and lightness of touch.

1997 Domaine Georges Mugneret/Mugneret-Gibourg Echezeaux
Return of the Portuguese menace! The romance just keeps coming.

1996 Billecart-Salmon Champagne Cuvée Nicolas-François Billecart
Lovely aromatics, full of fresh brioche, vanilla cream, white fruits and touches of honey and yeast. Tremendous power and richness in the mouth with fresh baked biscuit and ripe fruit complemented by gentle nutty and marzipan notes, very fresh and lively with really good acidity and effervescence.

1994 Marcel Deiss Gewurztraminer Altenberg de Bergheim Sélection de Grains Nobles
Packed with honey-drenched tropical fruit flavours ranging from pineapple to lychee, Gewurz florality and touches of caramel and spice, very rich and slightly viscous, but nicely balanced with enough acidity to keep it from feeling too heavy, and impressive length.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:59 am

Thanks for putting up the notes, and many thanks to Spencer for such incredible generosity with the wines.

I admit I am conflicted about the Philipponnat if only because neither Jason nor Spencer noted anything amiss. Steve is of course blissfully TCA tolerant, but the other two guys are pretty sharp on picking that up. There were some sips I had where I didn't notice anything wrong at all, and others where I did get a mustiness in the mid & back palate impression. Of course I would be thrilled to try another bottle to confirm/refute any suspicion!

No question on the Montrose or Mungeret-Gibourg. Sigh.

Clearly the beast of premox is not behind us on the basis of the Bonneau du Martray. Sad.

As for the other wines, I was blown away by the 1989 Trimbach CFE VT. The combination of fruit, spice and stone was magical. Understated is a great way to portray the sweetness, as it wasn't really noticeable as sweetness, but rather another level of richness. Truly great wine.

I found the Chave to be all about its perfume. I really would have liked a touch more palate weight, and maybe it would have gained some, but the decanter did empty rather quickly. No shock, as the wine was delicious anyway. I preferred the Chave to the Trollat due to the greater refinement of the former wine, but the meaty/rustic character of the Trollat was copelling (probably would have gone better with the lamb dish than with my pork dish which paired quite well with my last sip of Chave & the later Champagne).

The 1996 Billecart-Salmon was a completely different beast from the Philipponnat, though there was always something advanced hovering in the background. I liked the wine quite a lot, and it was a fantastic pairing with the pork cheek. I think there needs to be some serious tasting work on '96 Champagnes to see what is going on. I would rather drink them up too soon than have some oxidation train wrech take over. Egly-Ouriet is already dead, and like Spencer (if not to the same degree) I have a fair piece invested in the '96s that I would hate to waste.

Next time: Truchot!
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by JC (NC) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:28 am

A pity if the Clos des Goisses was an off bottle. I've only had a taste of it once, in the same tasting with Pol Roger, and the Philipponnat was markedly my preference.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by AlexR » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:04 am

The Portuguese have a lot to answer for.

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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:25 pm

AlexR wrote:The Portuguese have a lot to answer for.


Somehow I think it's more complicated than that, but the failure of corks is a depressing situation.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by AlexR » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:13 am

Of course, David, I was just being outrageous :-).

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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Carl Eppig » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:04 am

I would call four out of nine a disaster!
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Michael Malinoski » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:41 pm

Man, how many more phenomenol tasting notes do I have to read on this board about the 1989 Trimbach CFE VT before I go on a serious hunt for some?? Great notes, Salil.

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P.S. I did pick up some 2001 CFE VT on David's advice--that might have to sate my appetite for now.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:12 pm

The 2000 Vt is drinking quite well now, so if you're really jonesing for a Trimbach I would go for some of that.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Rahsaan » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:05 pm

Carl Eppig wrote:I would call four out of nine a disaster!


On the positive side, it is 4 damaged bottles cleared out of the cellar where they can no longer do any harm.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:09 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
Carl Eppig wrote:I would call four out of nine a disaster!


On the positive side, it is 4 damaged bottles cleared out of the cellar where they can no longer do any harm.


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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Maureen N » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:50 am

Rahsaan wrote:
Carl Eppig wrote:I would call four out of nine a disaster!


On the positive side, it is 4 damaged bottles cleared out of the cellar where they can no longer do any harm.


now, that's my line! well, something like that.

Salil, if you think the 89 CFE VT is great, wait until you try the 90. I really like the 89 but never pair them as it will show how superior the 90 is - just that much more focused.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Salil » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:06 am

Maureen N wrote:Salil, if you think the 89 CFE VT is great, wait until you try the 90. I really like the 89 but never pair them as it will show how superior the 90 is - just that much more focused.

Maureen, I've been fortunate enough to try the '90 CFE VT recently as well (also thanks to Spencer's generosity) and I agree it's definitely amazing - though based on how the '89 showed at this particular evening, I'd have a hard time calling one superior to the other. Both are spectacular wines.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:57 am

I've now had correct bottles of the '89 and '90 on more than one occasion, and I don't reallt think it makes sense to compare them. The '90 certainly wins hands down on purity of expression, but I really like the extra lush quality of the '89 as well.

Simple solution: drink both as often as possible & take it as a lesson to buy current vintages of the VT as well.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Spencer » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:51 am

For what it's worth, I opened another bottle of the '04 Bonneau du Martray last night.

Premoxed.

Not as bad as the bottle last week, but it still went down the drain.

I've also managed to get ahold of a few more bottles of the '89 CFE VT, so there'll be a direct comparison of the '89 and '90 sometime in the near future.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by Salil » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:55 am

Spencer wrote:For what it's worth, I opened another bottle of the '04 Bonneau du Martray last night.

Premoxed.

Not as bad as the bottle last week, but it still went down the drain.

Ugh.
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Re: WTN: Dinner with friends at the Mill

by David M. Bueker » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:02 am

Rotten, rotten situation on the Bonneau du Martray.

Can't wait to have the '89 and '90 CFE VT side-by-side!
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