WTN: Great Burgs, Bubbles, Nebbiolo, Rhones w/SOBER

John hosted SOBER last night, and put out a spectacular array of wines. We arrived to platters of cheeses (the St. Marcellin and Delice de Bourgogne were especially good examples), pate, and olives. He started us with 2 non-blind Champagnes

2002 Camille Saves Brut Champagne (Bouzy)
Big, fresh, apple with a nice touch of bitter grapefruit peel, baked bread, full-bodied. A-

2004 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne Rose
Young, tight, not showing a lot right now. Cherry pie and yeast, but muted. A few who saved said it really opened up. For now, B

On to the blind wines
Red Flight #1

#1- nice complex nose, with dark fruit, tobacco, bacon fat, earth. At first I thought Bordeaux with the tobacco, but once someone said Northern Rhone it seemed clear. Mark got Hermitage, and La Chapelle fairly quickly. I really liked this. 1988 Jaboulet "La Chapelle" Hermitage. A-/B+

#2- a bit lifted, something a little off on nose, but not corked. Medium body, redder fruits, shorter than its flightmate. 1983 Jaboulet "La Chapelle" Hermitage. B-

Red Flight #2
#1 a bit of brett (some found too much), horsey, dark plum and cherry fruit, earth. Not bad at all, but suffered in comparison to flightmate. Consensus of more experienced Burgheads was it needed time. 1985 Georges Mugneret Echezeaux. B/B+

#2- Wow, great nose, perfumey (someone said "Chave-like"), complex, red fruits, earth. Sweet and full. I was thinking Northern Rhone again but Dan got Burgundy. I think he then guessed Clos Vougeot, John said next door, he got Echezeaux. No one guessed producer, as no one had ever heard of before. 1966 Echezeaux from Lamadon (or Lamandon, I can't read my scribbles, even though I made a special effort to read the name). A-/A

White Flight (with a delicious tomato, olive, and onion tart)

This was clearly Riesling, but much debate about from where. I thought either Alsace or Austria, and came down in latter camp. I was thinking #2 was something like late 90s Smaragd, maybe a Hirtzberger Singerriedel or a top Knoll. But Andy guessed late 80s Alsace, bingo.

#1 -light petrol, medium body, citrus, saline. 1989 Trimbach "Cuvee Frederic Emile" B/B+

#2- big, herby, rich, minerally, absolutely lovely. 1990 Trimbach Clos Ste. Hune. A-

Red Flight #3 (with osso buco)
#1 Some quick calls of Piedmont. Sweet full red fruit, tar, smoke, mushrooms. Nice length, balanced and ready. 1979 Produttori de Barbaresco "Ovello" Barbaresco Riserva. A-/B+

#2 very advanced, some definite maderization (others didn't think so), rich red fruit underneath, funk. John said this had a problem cork. 1970 Rinaldi Barbaresco C+

Red Flight #4
#1 Full, rich, excellent length. Someone (Mark) gets Giacosa quickly, but no one gets vineyard, as no one knew of Giacosa having produced this.
1971 Giacosa "Montefico" Barbaresco . A-/A

#2 Soy, black cherry, earth. Really nice! We got vintage with a Walrus clue from John (koo koo ca choo). 1967 Marcarini "Brunate" Barolo A-

Quite a night, thanks John!

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.  

#2 Soy, black cherry, earth. Really nice! We got vintage with a Walrus clue from John (koo koo ca choo). 1967 Marcarini "Brunate" Barolo A-

Hello,

I've only had wines from this producer starting with the very early 90's and, given my scant experience, I didn't think that they can go the distance. Glad yours did.

Goodbye.

(someone said "Chave-like")...Sweet and full. I was thinking Northern Rhone again...No one guessed producer, as no one had ever heard of before...

Given these facts, did anyone raise the possibility of the wine having syrah added?

Ramon, this is oldest Marcarini I've had, but I've had the 78 & 85 Brunate, and both were doing fine and not on downslope. Oldest I have now is 96, which I don't expect to drink for a bit. The Brunate is typically regarded as longer aging than the La Serra.
I also had the 88 Lazarin, Marcarini's base Langhe Nebbiolo, for early drinking- fine if not complex at 20 years!

Rahsaan, anything is possible. But this was a small grower in Vosne, hard to see it would have been practical. Big negociants or large growers would be more likely in my opinion- you'd need tanker trucks to made "Hermitaging" financially viable.

Rahsaan, anything is possible. But this was a small grower in Vosne, hard to see it would have been practical. Big negociants or large growers would be more likely in my opinion- you'd need tanker trucks to made "Hermitaging" financially viable.

Ok, just wondering. Didn't know if the name was a bottler or something. But your logic sounds good. Either way, I'm sure it was fun and interesting to drink.

Rahsaan, anything is possible. But this was a small grower in Vosne, hard to see it would have been practical. Big negociants or large growers would be more likely in my opinion- you'd need tanker trucks to made "Hermitaging" financially viable.

Ok, just wondering. Didn't know if the name was a bottler or something. But your logic sounds good. Either way, I'm sure it was fun and interesting to drink.

It was great. Actually I was the one who remembered Burgundian geography from the hint that it adjoined Clos Vougeot (nothing Musigny-like about it, so it wasn't that hard given the info John gave us). I've had quite a few old Burgundies that I am pretty sure were "helped along" and all of those had evidence of it structurally as well, not just in the taste; this had northern Rhone aromatics (I was one of the people who was convinced it was), but the structure was Burgundian. Of course, that can be true for Hermitage and Cote Rotie as well, but it would be odd to doctor Burgundy with Burgundian-styled wine, rather than dense juice. Who knows, though!

Another night that has me a little intimidated at having to put one together for this group. I'd heard of the Giacosa Montefico, but never actually seen a bottle. Almost surely once in a lifetime for all of us, so many thanks to John for sharing it.

Oh, and my note said Lamadon.