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Ryan Maderak wrote:Is the fact that no one has commented on this yet an indication of shock . . . . or indifference?
Ryan Maderak wrote:indifference?
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Oliver McCrum wrote:A tragic loss to the field of wine journalism.
Ian Sutton
Spanna in the works
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Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:10 pm
Norwich, UK
David M. Bueker wrote:The only reason the thread has any life on Sergejerkers is that it allows conspiracy theories and bashing. Any love expressed for Wine Spectator is merely a turnaround backlash because of the hatred of The Wine Advocate.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Ian Sutton wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:The only reason the thread has any life on Sergejerkers is that it allows conspiracy theories and bashing. Any love expressed for Wine Spectator is merely a turnaround backlash because of the hatred of The Wine Advocate.
Different opinions on wineberserkers as a forum are also available![]()
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Dale Williams wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:A tragic loss to the field of wine journalism.
Oliver, don't worry, he's not retiring - just leaving the Spec. I can feel your trauma, as his preferences so clearly match your own.![]()
Decanter had a piece
http://www.decanter.com/news/300137.html
I never thought overall his Bordeaux coverage was awful, but I certainly did not match his tastes in Italian wines.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
David M. Bueker wrote:Southern Italy is a great source of wine, but are specific, outstanding wines readily available in many markets? One of the stated criteria of the list is availability, so they rarely reward small lots or wines that are hard to find.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Dale Williams wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:A tragic loss to the field of wine journalism.
Oliver, don't worry, he's not retiring - just leaving the Spec. I can feel your trauma, as his preferences so clearly match your own.![]()
David M. Bueker wrote:My (free) subscription to WS lapsed about 2 years ago, and all I miss are the Matt Kramer articles.
The only reason the thread has any life on Sergejerkers is that it allows conspiracy theories and bashing. Any love expressed for Wine Spectator is merely a turnaround backlash because of the hatred of The Wine Advocate.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
David M. Bueker wrote:But then WS never gave much coverage to S. Italy in the first place, so the wines don't make the radar.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
Oliver McCrum wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:But then WS never gave much coverage to S. Italy in the first place, so the wines don't make the radar.
This is circular; my question would be why don't they? I think the rise of the South is a noteworthy trend for two reasons: firstly, because it's new and newsworthy, especially in the case of the extraordinary white wines that are coming from down there these days; and secondly because there are so many amazing wines being made in the south (especially Campania) that covering Italy without giving these wines their due doesn't make any sense.
David M. Bueker wrote:Do the rich and vacuous travel there? Is there an emergence of luxury spas? If not then it's hard to pen lifestyle pieces to accompany the wine notes.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Oliver McCrum wrote:Right, Capri, the Amalfi generally, the Costa Smeralda on Sardinia...
Mike_F wrote:David M. Bueker wrote:Do the rich and vacuous travel there? Is there an emergence of luxury spas? If not then it's hard to pen lifestyle pieces to accompany the wine notes.
http://www.capri.net/en/spa
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
1076
Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Robin Garr wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:Right, Capri, the Amalfi generally, the Costa Smeralda on Sardinia...
Okay, now let's follow this trail and see where it goes. Oliver, do you feel that any of the Amalfi or Sardinian wines - as lovable as they can be - posess the great quality, ageworthiness and sufficiency of production to match the best of Tuscany or Piemonte?
I'm the last one to stand up for Wine Spectator here, but as much as I love the regional wines of Italy, I do think it requires a rare combination of the place and its wines to meet the standard that its Winestyles of the Rich and Famous readers desire.
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