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WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by Dale Williams » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:38 am

Neal Martin from the Wine Advocate came to NYC for a bit, and John Gilman and Craig Ganzer decided he should have a look at classic old school California, which isn't well represented in the UK. A nice group of wine geeks gathered in a very cool Chelsea/Union Sq area loft. Lots of nice wines tasted, my notes are below. I will say that there was a bit more disagreement than most nights, so take my disclaimer seriously, others felt differently about several wines.

1998 Henriot Brut Champagne
Medium to full bodied, bready, baked apple pie fruit. Light oxidative notes, but fresh acidity and good finish. Consistent from 2 bottles. Quite nice! A-/B+

1973 Mayacamas Zinfandel
Some volative notes, very ripe fruit (overripe to some), holding on ok, just not showing enough complexity/development to suggest that aging did this any good. But definitely alive. B-/C+

we moved to table, and enjoyed some cheeses, lardo, proscuitto, etc.

First flight
1971 Charles Krug Vintage Selection Cabernet Sauvignon
I brought the Krugs, and frankly expected the 74 to outshine the 71, much to my surprise I preferred the 71. Soft, elegant, classy with dark fruit trumped by notes of earth, cedar, and herb. Really nice, and a contender for WOTN for me. A-

1974 Charles Krug Vintage Selection Lot F1 Cabernet Sauvignon
All Fay fruit. Herb, dill, a bit blocky. Still some dense fruit, I liked but thought next to the 71 it showed a touch clumsy. B+/B

A solo flight
NV Casa de Sonoma Cabernet Sauvignon
An intriguing backstory. Sebastiani was making jug wines, but a batch of 1941 was so good they saved it (labeled as Cabernet, but then that meant at least 51%). Bottled in 1947, released and it didn't sell well. A bunch was saved in cellars, and in 1982 reconditioned and put out for sale (with orginal corks in little bags on neck).
Sweet, full for the age, some thought this fruitless but I didn't. Red currants, mushrooms, dirt. Not really complex, but good and with a great story. B+

1975 Montelena Chardonnay (magnum)
(with a tuna/avocado/dill tartar)
Youthful, sweet white fruit, slight cheesy note blows off. Other than Stony Hill this is the oldest CA Chardonnay I've tasted, but to tell you the truth it showed a lot like the 98 Montelena recently. Hasn't really gained a ton of mature complexity. B

Next red flight
1974 Concannon Cabernet Sauvignon(Livermore Valley)
Dark fruit, meat, tobacco. Seemed a little stewed at first, but improved. This was a cheapie I brought because I wanted us to have something outside NapaNoma, I've had this once before and liked a bit more, but I thought ok (a few disliked it). B

1974 Caymus Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon
Good nose, a bit simpler on palate but my favorite of the flight. Black and red fruit, a touch of bell pepper and menthol. Good length. B+

Heitz Lot MZ-1 Cabernet Sauvignon
(bottled in 1975, half of the fruit from Martha's Vineyard).
I found this pretty volatile, though palate was much better. Opinions varied dramatically. Calmed down a bit, pretty drinkable, but one of my least favorites. B-

Meal was great Waygu beef from a Japanese butcher in NoHo/East Village, along with potatoes and salad.

Next red flight
1973 Spring Mountain Cabernet Sauvignon
Sweet, ripe, good red fruit but with plenty of spice and cigarbox, good length. I thought this was my clear WOTN to start, but a slight pruney edge after some time in glass put it closer to a tie. A-

1977 Spring Mountain Cabernet Sauvignon
Great nose, but lacking some zip on palate, seems ponderous. Some mushroom/truffle notes, earth. B/B+

1978 Spring Mountain Cabernet Sauvignon
corked

Final red flight

1978 Montelena Estate Cabernet Sauvignon
Fleshy, a bit of a jammy edge, pretty good length but a drying note on finish. Some herby notes. Mark and John seemed to agree this had been acidulated, but I neglected to note why they thought so. B

1978 Diamond Creek Red Rock Terrace Cabernet Sauvignon
Sweet, big, young, good length. Seems like it needs more time. Fairly complex, but seems a bit more potential than current pleasure. B+

1978 Rutherford Hill Cabernet Sauvignon
Great nose, nice followup on palate. Some found it simple, but while I agree it's not especially complex, I thought it drank well and was quite interesting. Solid, classic Cab. B+/A-

Craig had added a dessert flight, with 3 half bottles of Chateau St. Jean
Johannisberg Riesling
. My ride was leaving, so I got a quick taste of the 1975 Ch. St. Jean Belle Terre BA. Caramel, toffee, honeycomb. Tasty, though I thougt not as complex as a German BA. He also had the Ch. St. Jean 1977/1978 Robert Young TBAs, but I'm not sure which vintage I got a pour of as I exited. Very dark, thick, with an oxidative note- imagine a good German dessert wine cut with about 30% PX.

Really fun night. Other than maybe the Zin, I'd happily drink any of these. I admit to be slightly disappointed by the Montelena, Heitz, and the F1, but that had more to do with expectations than anything else.

Really nice group. Not much chance to chat with Neal at opposite end, but he came across as both nice and professional. Thanks to Andy for hosting, Craig and John for organizing, Chris for cooking, and all for bringing good wine and personalities.

(PS I'm tired! Cathleen graciously gave me a ride uptown where I met some friends finishing a Midnight Run, so I'd not have to take train home. I thought an elegant plan, but an accident shut down the highway for a half hour or more, I would have gotten home faster by train!)


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency. 
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Re: WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by R Cabrera » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:44 pm

Thanks for the notes Dale. I liked the story on the 1941 Casa de Sonoma, especially as I used to buy quite a bit of Sebastiani wines during the times when we lived near Sonoma (the town).
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Re: WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by David M. Bueker » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:15 pm

Sounds like a fun and educational tasting.
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Re: WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by Dale Williams » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:02 pm

Apparently a batch of the Casa di Sonomas ended up on Winebid couple years ago. Only Greg recognized what they were, he got for something like $20. But I remember when more appeared, story was out, and I dropped out as prices approached 3 figures.
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Re: WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by Craig Ganzer » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:12 pm

Nice notes, and not a lot to add. I really liked the Henriot too, and plan to look for more of their wines. The Mayacamas zin was 15% alcohol, which was doing it in; not terrible but pruny, chocolatey, volatile and while drinkable, only barely and with so much more to go I tossed it.

I agree with you completely about the Charles Krug flight but liked the Montelena chardonnay the most of anyone there I think, and the Concannon less than you did, it was pleasant enough but pretty simple. I really liked the MZ-1. I agree with your rankings of the final flight but had a higher opinion of all 3, I think.

The Chateau St. Jeans all came from the same source, with the 75 pretty good, the 77 stellar (the quality equivalent of a good German TBA in my opinion) and the 78 past its best.

Dale Williams wrote:
I will say that there was a bit more disagreement than most nights...


Well, John drinking and talking about politics tends to do that! :)
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Re: WTN: CaliCabs 1941-1978 with Neal Martin

by Dale Williams » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:46 am

Thanks Craig. I knew the Heitz had probably the biggest diversity of opinion.
The Henriot made me regret passing on the 96 recently.
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