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Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke wrote:What is it, Tim, about grand poobahs and pontificators, that they feel the need to roil people up when tasting wines?(Wouldn't be ego, would it?)
Knowledgeable and French don't sit too well together in my opinion, not in world wine terms anyway. I remember at a Slow Food symposium at Vinexpo that he was asked - in the absence of the Hungarian wine maker, to introduce the Tokaji Aszu that we were tasting along with other sweet wines against foie gras. He started out by saying that he wasn't the ideal person to introduce it (certainly true) because he much preferred botrytised sweet wines. And this from the man who praised Domaine Cauhapé from Jurançon to the skies. (is it worth reminding people here that Tokaji Aszu is usually WAY more botrytised than most Sauternes, and that Cauhapé is the epitome of fine passerillé sweet wines?) My wife had to physically restrain me from objecting on the spot.Modesty is certainly not one of Bettane's faults but he is just about the most knowledgeable and incisive of the French critics.
That's certainly true, because after the tasting I bearded him and pointed out that he was entirely wrong about Tokaji Aszu's lack of botrytis. He claimed that he had been told this was the case, and was more than a little miffed when I suggested that instead of relying on what he was told by his friends, he might be better off going there himself and that I'd seen the botrytised grapes myself in several estates there.I don't think that he cares much for contrary opinions, rather like RMP.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Ian H wrote:HiHe may be the most knowledgeable of French critics, and while I'd certainly trust him most of the time when talking about French wines, I think that maybe half the regulars here know way more than he does about, and are far more sympathetic towards, wines from the rest of the world.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Tim York wrote:I think that you are wrong about Bettane's lack of sympathy for foreign wines; he is a leader in efforts to broaden French horizons. I subscribed for a time to his periodical "Tast" and often read his articles in the RVF.
I am surprised that he appeared to include Jurançon amongst botrytised wines.
I know of several occasions where he went to wine tastings, spent quite a while with his regulars, asked them for their opinion and then talked with great authority about the ensemble of the vintage, having tasted almost none of the others. Mind you... he's not the only journalist to prefer to get their information that way - though not many in the wine trade.Tim York wrote: Like everyone he has his faults and I know someone who claims to have seen Bettane falling asleep during a tasting but not failing to comment on all the wines.
Ian H wrote:Hello again, Tim
Well, I used to subscribe to RVF, and dropped my subscription when faced with the unrelenting chauvinism in it.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke wrote:It's a difficult task for the growers and winemakers of Cahors---they wish to retain their rich heritage and iconic style, as created by their unique terroirs and traditions, but they have to survive in the competitive wine world as well (both within France and within the external markets). Maintaining tradition and embracing change simultaneously is not the easiest thing in the world. I think the cadurciens are attempting just that in the best way they can, and I sincerely hope their effort succeeds.
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