
Melissa Priestley
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Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
Edmonton, AB, Canada
Dave Erickson wrote:We will recall that no winemakers in Cahors put the word "Malbec" on their labels before 2004. I think Vigouroux was the first, with a "rosé of Malbec" in the 2004 vintage. Unless anyone remembers an earlier one. For that matter, you might see "cot" or "auxerrois" on a back label before 2004, but certainly not on the front. Producers from Cahors and Mendoza were supposed to start a joint-marketing effort to promote malbec in April 2008, but I don't know what ever happened as a result. I did have a conversation with someone at Vigouroux's Haute Serre property last year during which she explained that they'd started putting "Malbec" on their labels in 2005 "for the communication." There was also a claim that malbec and cot were actually not the same grape.
Oswaldo Costa wrote:It takes all kinds: sometimes we see Cahors producers labeling their wine as Malbec to jump on the Argentine bandwagon. Probably not the better ones...
Hoke
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and at $20 a bottle, the qpr is just as good as any Argentinean. Maybe better, at least for me, since I like this Cot way more than most of those generic Malbecs.
Hoke
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Tim York wrote:Oswaldo Costa wrote:It takes all kinds: sometimes we see Cahors producers labeling their wine as Malbec to jump on the Argentine bandwagon. Probably not the better ones...
The new Cahors marketing gurus are keen to emphasise Malbec and "Black Wine". I think that there is a risk that too many of their producers will forswear their own regional character in trying to produce Argentinian look-alikes, which their terroir and climate do not really allow them to do successfully. I also think that the slogan "Black Wine" is a mistake at least for anglophones.
It is ironic that Malbec is originally a Bordelais name and its local name in Cahors is Auxerrois or sometimes Côt Noir.
Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
Edmonton, AB, Canada
Hoke wrote:and at $20 a bottle, the qpr is just as good as any Argentinean. Maybe better, at least for me, since I like this Cot way more than most of those generic Malbecs.
Perhaps totally unnecessary but I'll jump in here quickly and say that Melissa is reporting from Canada and quoting Canadian prices---so the $20CAN she mentions would be significantly less kaching in the US.![]()
Hoke wrote:Question, Mel? What do you think you'd prefer if you had a Cahors Malbec at the same price point as the Chilean Cot? Do you prefer the Cahors general style, or do you think the more fruity/oaky Chilean style would be your preference here?
Hoke
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