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WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Salil » Mon May 17, 2010 10:57 am

With Steve Edmunds in the area, Tse Wei hosted a bunch of us at his home in Cambridge for dinner. Very fun evening with some old friends and new faces I'd been looking forward to meeting; was great to finally meet Steve and MarkS from the WLDG. An excess of wine, there were a good number I didn't end up taking notes on and a handful I didn't even get around to tasting - hopefully others who were at the dinner can fill in notes where I've missed out.

1989 J. Lassalle Champagne Brut 1er Cru Blanc de Blancs
From magnum, but feels a bit tired and over the hill with the flavours lacking precision and freshness - there's a baked quality to the apple/peach flavours here, with faintly oxidative notes on the back end and this finishes a little short.

2007 Azienda Agricola Durin Pigato Riviera Ligure di Ponente
Fresh pear and citrus fruit and herbs over a bed of minerals; very light, streamlined and polished with bright acids and a sense of precision, lovely.

2008 Anthill Farms Pinot Gris Forchini Vineyard
Salmon-orange in colour, apparently this spent time on the skins though it comes across more like a rose. Rich peach and berried flavours with savoury earthy notes, there's an interesting sweetcorn-like note that comes out on the back end and an underlying smoky character that gets more prevalent with some air, though I'm not sure whether that's from the winemaking or the smoke-taint. Certainly unusual and quite pleasant.

2001 Edmunds St. John Los Robles Viejos Rozet Vineyard
The white; Steve says this is about 50% Viognier with the rest Marsanne and Roussanne, about 25% each. Drinking really nicely now with some mature nutty, wooly and oily notes around a core of rich white fruits and floral elements, round and expansive in the mouth without feeling soft/flabby, very enjoyable.

2004 Dard et Ribo St. Joseph
Surprisingly developed given that it's an '04; great aromatics with dark fruits and earth accented by peppery and developed leathery/meaty notes; lovely combination of youthful fruit and mature flavours in the mouth with an elegant, finessed mouthfeel. Delicious stuff, my first experience with D&R and I'll have to hunt down some in the future.

2005 Herve Souhaut St. Joseph Sainte Epine
Full of brett with a nose full of barnyard funk, iodine, leather and some red fruits beneath - in the mouth it's rich and supple with a polished texture, but the brett's so dominant here it overwhelms every other aspect of the wine and makes it a bit hard to enjoy.

2005 Jean-Louis Chave St. Joseph
Dense and richly fruited with touches of wood and herbal notes, didn't make much of an impression when served blind or when I revisited.

2006 Stéphane Othéguy St. Joseph
Gorgeous aromatics, full of dark fruit, savoury earth and pepper accented with lavender and violet elements; rich and layered in the mouth with lots of depth, elegance and bright acidity giving the flavours a sense of freshness and precision. Need to look out for more from this producer.

2001 Edmunds St. John Syrah Wylie-Fenaughty
Served blind, not many people picked this out alongside the other St. Josephs. Rich and savoury with plum and black olive flavours with smoky accents, though in the company this didn't stand out that much and didn't make the impression it did last week at the ESJ-fest.

1999 Eric Texier Hermitage
Corked. Damnit.

1990 Domaine du Pégaü Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée
Fantastic stuff, starting out with an amazing aromatic profile that combines all sorts of developed leathery, earthy and herbal elements with mature red fruits; silken-textured in the mouth with tannins fully resolved and a sense of great balance and elegance.

1999 Château Rayas Côtes du Rhône Château de Fonsalette Cuvée Syrah
Spicy aromatics with intense pepper and mustard scents (Matteo says 'whole grain mustard') leading into a palate full of deep Syrah fruit with firm tannins and bright acids; nicely balanced and enjoyable though this gives the impression of being very, very young.

1998 Best's Shiraz Bin O Great Western
Really good stuff; rich and intense with plummy fruit, dark chocolate, leather and minty notes combining together seamlessly. With some air the flavours brighten and the aromatics gain a sweet cookie dough-like element, though this stays very well balanced throughout, showing a sense of polish and grace that I find too rarely among other Aussie Shiraz.

2002 Huët Vouvray Pétillant Brut
Lovely; subtle and understated with gentle apple and yellow fruits, faintly nutty and yeasty with richness and a sense of real lightness and elegance.

N.V. François Pinon Vouvray Brut
Young. Very very young. Lots suggesting that this will be awesome with time, but right now it's painfully young and not as gentle and easy to drink/enjoy as the Huet.

2006 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese
From magnum; bargain Beerenauslese here, packed with ripe mango, pineapple and other tropical fruit flavours mingled with honey, spices and other botrytis elements. Very rich and round though a little soft; more acidity would be very welcome here to keep this tasting more like Riesling rather than something bordering on tropical fruit juice.

1997 Joh. Jos. Christoffel Erben Erdener Treppchen Riesling Auslese 2-star
Wonderful stuff, seamlessly combining bright Mosel fruit, slate, floral and honeyed touches and developed smoky and petrol flavour elements on a frame that's very rich though nicely balanced and quite precise with surprising acidity. Finishes very long, and there's lots here suggesting this has plenty of time ahead of it still.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Dale Williams » Mon May 17, 2010 11:30 am

Very nice lineup, jealous you got to meet Steve.
I had the Pinon last night, thought more open (different lot?).
I really like the 02 Huet bubbly, no matter which lot!
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Mon May 17, 2010 11:32 am

Glad to see that you (evidently) arrived home safely. But what took you so long to post notes :wink:

More seriously, we should give some serious kudos to Tse Wei and his partner for cooking all that food. Anyone passing through Somerville once their restaurant opens would be foolish not to eat there. The lebni tart in particular was gorgeous but it was all delicious.

Otherwise, nice job with the notes although you missed two of my favorite wines of the evening. The NV Chaussard You Are So Bubbly and the 1996 Chamonard Morgon Clos de Lys. Not sure if I have tasted the Chaussard before but sparkling elegant grenache/cinsault from the Loire never tasted so good! And so restrained!

I was excited to try the Chamonard because there were some discussion on Disorder a while back where Eric Texier claimed Chamonard was the 'truest' expression of Morgon. There was also some debate about whether the wines were bretty because some Nyc reports found brett but Texier claimed he drank many cases of the 96 with no brett. In this bottle, I definitely found some brett but I still thought it was a deliciously mature wine with lovely round yet integrated texture. That said, the flavors were not what I think of as 'gamay' (although admittedly I don't have much experience with 14 year old gamay) so the brett could have been covering up some of the detail. Who knows, either way this gentle lively mature wine was fun to drink.

You also missed the 2001 Texier CdRV Laudun but I have no significant memory of this.

2004 Dard et Ribo St. Joseph
Surprisingly developed given that it's an '04; great aromatics with dark fruits and earth accented by peppery and developed leathery/meaty notes; lovely combination of youthful fruit and mature flavours in the mouth with an elegant, finessed mouthfeel. Delicious stuff, my first experience with D&R and I'll have to hunt down some in the future.

2005 Herve Souhaut St. Joseph Sainte Epine
Full of brett with a nose full of barnyard funk, iodine, leather and some red fruits beneath - in the mouth it's rich and supple with a polished texture, but the brett's so dominant here it overwhelms every other aspect of the wine and makes it a bit hard to enjoy.


These wines gave an interesting showing. I liked the Souhaut a lot more as it aired although there was some brett and it did not have the stoney clarity and precision of my favorite examples from Souhaut (which were earlier vintages and maybe it is too much to expect 'clarity' from 2005?).

The Dard and Ribo showed very well given my expectation of bacterial experiments from these guys. But then again even the anti D&R folks have to admit that when the wines show well they are lots of 'fun'. The only question is how many of the bottles will be fun and delicious and how many would be spoiled. I think Mike said 1/4 were drinkable which makes this very expensive. And, true to form, by the end of the night the wine smelled like rotting sewage. But I agree it was glorious in the beginning.

N.V. François Pinon Vouvray Brut
Young. Very very young. Lots suggesting that this will be awesome with time, but right now it's painfully young and not as gentle and easy to drink/enjoy as the Huet.


This was much more of a sulfur bomb than a bottle I opened 2 months ago. I managed to bring home the remainders and if my head ever clears today I will taste it again.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Mon May 17, 2010 11:37 am

Dale Williams wrote:Very nice lineup, jealous you got to meet Steve.


He's in Boston doing events through Wednesday. Just drive on up!

I had the Pinon last night, thought more open (different lot?).


For some reason I thought this was the 06. Probably because of some info when I bought it at Chambers because last night we were scouring the bottle for information about lot/vintage and couldn't find any. As mentioned in my post above, my previous bottle (same lot) was not quite as sulfurey/difficult.

I really like the 02 Huet bubbly, no matter which lot!


Ours was the second release and was plenty elegant but I could have done with less of the wool element and I still can't get the taste out of my mind from the first bottle I opened a few months ago which was so sunny golden ripe and delicious but also elegant mineral and pristinely elegant. But I don't remember what release it was. It definitely tasted much different from the two bottles I have had of this second release.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Salil » Mon May 17, 2010 12:24 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Otherwise, nice job with the notes although you missed two of my favorite wines of the evening. The NV Chaussard You Are So Beautiful and the 1996 Chamonard Morgon Clos de Lys. Not sure if I have tasted the Chaussard before but sparkling elegant grenache/cinsault from the Loire never tasted so good! And so restrained!

Yeah, there was a lot I missed. Actually didn't even get around to trying the Chaussard, but the Morgon was delicious (though I didn't take any notes/even write down the name of that). What were your thoughts on the brown-bagged Gamay (which was apparently from an adjacent plot to the Clos Vougeot, but did very little for me)?

And echo your thoughts on the food, which was superb all round.

Didn't realize D&R had such bacteria issues; I'm guessing the wines are zero sulfur? If so will have to reconsider hunting some down in the future (especially with that sort of hit rate).
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Mon May 17, 2010 3:01 pm

Salil wrote:What were your thoughts on the brown-bagged Gamay (which was apparently from an adjacent plot to the Clos Vougeot, but did very little for me)?


Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It wasn't very exciting to me either. Too tart! Which sounds strange for 1999 'Burgundy', but then again I didn't pay much attention to it. There was also a richer wine from Southwest France, but I took one sip and dumped because there was too much other stuff.

Didn't realize D&R had such bacteria issues; I'm guessing the wines are zero sulfur?


Zero/low enough to be a problem. If you ask me.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Mon May 17, 2010 3:06 pm

Plus Mark's oaky/sweet verdicchio!
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Mon May 17, 2010 7:13 pm

Oh and since I seem to be bringing up all the forgotten bottles, there were also two absinthes. I forget the names but I still remember the herbal burn.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Dave Erickson » Mon May 17, 2010 8:51 pm

Salil wrote:2007 Azienda Agricola Durin Pigato Riviera Ligure di Ponente
Fresh pear and citrus fruit and herbs over a bed of minerals; very light, streamlined and polished with bright acids and a sense of precision, lovely.


Everyone has their obsessions; Pigato is one of mine. I find the idea of a 2007 Pigato--in the U.S., no less--fascinating. I've never tasted one that was more than a year old that I thought was worth a damn. Obviously, I have new territory to discover.
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Mark Lipton » Mon May 17, 2010 11:17 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Oh and since I seem to be bringing up all the forgotten bottles, there were also two absinthes. I forget the names but I still remember the herbal burn.


How did they compare to the absinthes we had at Cesar lo those years ago? I can't say that I've had many (any?) since.

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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Tue May 18, 2010 12:08 am

Mark Lipton wrote:How did they compare to the absinthes we had at Cesar lo those years ago? I can't say that I've had many (any?) since.

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I am in no position to offer informed insight about last night's absinthes other than the fact that the noses were absolutely gorgeous. But I was well past my 'critical evaluation' phase of the evening and the glass I was using probably didn't do them any favors because the alcohol really kicked up and was painfully evident. As you may have seen Mark S. mention on Disorder, the producer was Delaware Phoenix from New York.

Otherwise, I also do not drink much absinthe although maybe I'll eventually get around to it. Who knows!
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Keith M » Tue May 18, 2010 12:09 am

Mark Lipton wrote:
Rahsaan wrote:Oh and since I seem to be bringing up all the forgotten bottles, there were also two absinthes. I forget the names but I still remember the herbal burn.


How did they compare to the absinthes we had at Cesar lo those years ago? I can't say that I've had many (any?) since.

Mark Lipton

Wow. I can't imagine having absinthe on an evening of so many wines (or any other selections of alcoholic beverages). I salute your livers!
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Re: WTN: A jeebus for Steve Edmunds

by Rahsaan » Tue May 18, 2010 12:17 am

Livers/lunacy, what's the difference!

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