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Giacosa label question

by Jay Labrador » Tue May 11, 2010 7:30 am

Is there such a thing as an Azienda Agricola Falletto Barbaresco and Barolo without a vineyard designation? A friend is importing the wines of Giacosa and according to his list, he has, listed under Az. Agricola Falletto, a Barbaresco and a Barolo but without a vineyard name. I asked someone at the shop to take a good look at the label as I don't have the time to drop by the shop and according to her, she can't find anything on the label saying Asili or Rabaja for the Barbaresco or Falletto, Le Rocche del Faletto, or Vigna Croera for the Barolo. Both wines, however, say Azienda Agricola Falletto.

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Re: Giacosa label question

by David M. Bueker » Tue May 11, 2010 7:37 am

That sounds like the basic white label Barolo/Barbaresco.

You can take a look at labels on CellarTracker.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by Spencer Thrall » Tue May 11, 2010 9:46 am

Those are the basic "white label" estate Barolo and Barbarescos. I believe the non-estate wines are bottled under the "Casa Vinicola Bruno Giacosa" label.

Per Ken Vastola's helpful Giacosa reference page:

http://networks.ecse.rpi.edu/~vastola/wine/giacosa/barolo/Baro2001.jpg
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Re: Giacosa label question

by R Cabrera » Tue May 11, 2010 4:05 pm

Jay Labrador wrote:Is there such a thing as an Azienda Agricola Falletto Barbaresco and Barolo without a vineyard designation? A friend is importing the wines of Giacosa and according to his list, he has, listed under Az. Agricola Falletto, a Barbaresco and a Barolo but without a vineyard name. I asked someone at the shop to take a good look at the label as I don't have the time to drop by the shop and according to her, she can't find anything on the label saying Asili or Rabaja for the Barbaresco or Falletto, Le Rocche del Faletto, or Vigna Croera for the Barolo. Both wines, however, say Azienda Agricola Falletto.

Any help here appreciated.


Jay,

I have a couple of 2001 Giacosa Barolo, white label and with the words Azienda Agricola Falleto on it, but without any vineyard designation. These are the normale bottling.
Btw, more good stuff at Jojo's shop?
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Re: Giacosa label question

by Dale Williams » Tue May 11, 2010 5:40 pm

Slight thread drift: I have several of the "straight" Barolo/Barbarescos. Generally the only Giacosas I feel I can afford. But I think that I am not planning to buy more. I always like them, but with the "Giacosa premium" they are pricey- I think I paid $45-50 for the 98/99 Barbarescos, and $60 for the 01 Barolo. Good wines, but I think at that price I'd prefer to spend a little less to have Marcarini's single vineyards, or spend more and have fewer bottles of Bruno's single vineyards.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by David M. Bueker » Tue May 11, 2010 6:28 pm

Dale Williams wrote:Slight thread drift: I have several of the "straight" Barolo/Barbarescos. Generally the only Giacosas I feel I can afford. But I think that I am not planning to buy more. I always like them, but with the "Giacosa premium" they are pricey- I think I paid $45-50 for the 98/99 Barbarescos, and $60 for the 01 Barolo. Good wines, but I think at that price I'd prefer to spend a little less to have Marcarini's single vineyards, or spend more and have fewer bottles of Bruno's single vineyards.


I can agree with the Marcarini idea. Also the Produttori Barbaresco Riservas prompt me to open my wallet.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by Dale Williams » Tue May 11, 2010 7:16 pm

Good example- the PdB single vineyards are also less expensive than the Giacosa base, but to me more individualistic.
I'm in awe of the greatness of some of the better Giacosas, but not sure my usual "buy by producer" mantra works here (although the Giacosa Nebbiolo d'Albas are quite good values). It's just the price,not the quality, of the base Barolo/Barbaresco.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by Victorwine » Tue May 11, 2010 8:26 pm

Dale,
Have you tried his “basic bottling” (Casa Vinicola Bruno Giascosa) Barbera d’Alba and Dolcetto (I believe he makes a “basic” Dolcetto d’Alba and also a single vineyard Dolcetto d’Alba Basarini). Just last Saturday afternoon I tried his Casa Vinicola Roero Arneis 2007.
I guess if the family acquires a vineyard site they would switch from Casa Vinicola to Azienda Agricola.

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Re: Giacosa label question

by Dale Williams » Tue May 11, 2010 9:13 pm

Giacosa is my favorite Arneis producer, I used to be a yearly buyer till it passed $25.
Not sure I've had Barbera or Dolcetto
Also have had Giacosa's bubbly, bt not in recent years.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by Jay Labrador » Tue May 11, 2010 9:19 pm

R Cabrera wrote:
Jay Labrador wrote:Is there such a thing as an Azienda Agricola Falletto Barbaresco and Barolo without a vineyard designation? A friend is importing the wines of Giacosa and according to his list, he has, listed under Az. Agricola Falletto, a Barbaresco and a Barolo but without a vineyard name. I asked someone at the shop to take a good look at the label as I don't have the time to drop by the shop and according to her, she can't find anything on the label saying Asili or Rabaja for the Barbaresco or Falletto, Le Rocche del Faletto, or Vigna Croera for the Barolo. Both wines, however, say Azienda Agricola Falletto.

Any help here appreciated.


Jay,

I have a couple of 2001 Giacosa Barolo, white label and with the words Azienda Agricola Falleto on it, but without any vineyard designation. These are the normale bottling.
Btw, more good stuff at Jojo's shop?


Thanks, Ramon. That's right. He's bringing in Giacosa, Scavino, Haag, Schaefer, Donnhoff and Zind-Hmbrecht.
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Re: Giacosa label question

by R Cabrera » Wed May 12, 2010 3:26 pm

Jay Labrador wrote:Thanks, Ramon. That's right. He's bringing in Giacosa, Scavino, Haag, Schaefer, Donnhoff and Zind-Hmbrecht.


Cool. I heard it's currently hot and humid over there. Those German (and Alsace) wines should be a welcome relief for our wine geek buddies over there.

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