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David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
36364
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:I can pull one for a near term dinner. I'm drinking a 2000 Lagrange right now (to salve the wounds of a corked 2000 La Prade).
Now, it is lush, powerful, intensely masculine with deep profiles of cassis, earthy dark fruit, tobacco, lead pencil shavings, leather and violets. Not a big bruiser at all, it is a suave and correct fellow, but one you definitely wouldn't want to mess with. Superior balance, elegantly smooth, finely layered, with a long, confident finish. The red of the night for me, without a doubt.
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
12044
Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Noel Ermitano wrote:I've had a lot of 1999 Bdx, it's one of my current easy-drinking vintages. Just from the past year, here are my notes on some:
'99 Mouton Rothschild:
Wine # 4 - toasted wood, gravel, tar, cherry, crème de cassis, violets, cedar. There is a pronounced smokiness to this wine. Medium-bodied. Good mid-palate push/drive, but the finish is clipped with drying, woody tannins. Unresolved and young. I ranked it 4th place and it turned out to be my 1999 Château Mouton Rothschild (decanted for over an hour). (Blind; late February 2010)
1999 L'Eglise Clinet:
I had quite a difficult time choosing between this and Wine # 5 as my second favorite (Wine # 1 was an easy choice for hedonism). Deep, smoldering personality. Dark, dark, concentrated cherry, plum, cedar, violets with hints of unsweetened chocolate and "tar". Rich in texture, there is power in this waiting to be unleashed. Only my perception of better structure made me choose Wine # 5 over this as my second favorite wine of the night (a concession to personal preferred standards). It turned out to be Eric's 1999 Château L'Eglise Clinet - another impressive '99 Pomerol. When this wine was unveiled, I immediately recalled the Vigneron's 1999 Château Trotanoy that handily won him the crown not long ago at our Blind Bordeaux Challenge XIV. (Blind; 13th February 2010)
1999 Trotanoy:
The Stockbroker's bottle, the bottle that won the crown for the Vigneron at the Grand Crew's recent Blind Bordeaux Challenge XIV. My notes then were as follows:
Wine #4: This wine took the longest to open, but, when it did, it just kept gaining darkly quiet, smoldering power, depth, body and roundness. Rich, deep, complex, dark plum, cherry, cassis, violets, leather, spice - what struck me most about this wine was its astounding balance of power and elegance. I had no choice but to rank this the best wine of the Challenge. It was the Vigneron's 1999 Château Trotanoy.
Again, a wine that makes one sit up and take notice. Again, very impressive in itself and especially for the vintage. (18th December 2009)
1999 Palmer:
I expect everyone is familiar with this over-performing 3rd growth from Margaux (well, it is certainly priced above its classification anyway). 1999 is, in my experience an under-appreciated Médoc vintage. Certainly the '99 Latour shows prodigious power, depth, weight and breadth, Margaux its trademark elegance, Lafite Rothschild its ethereal complexity, etc.
Naturally, one has to be selective as even the '99 Lynch Bages and Pichon Lalande have left me somewhat longing for more respective hallmark traits; and the '99s seem to be drinking sooner at all levels. Still and all, there are a few exceptions, and, in any event, '99s are very reasonably priced - a vintage of good and affordable drinking.
That said, the '99 Palmer is not what I would call a wine priced for casual drinking at US$150 and up at retail (no thanks to high scores bestowed by certain professional reviewers). It is undeniably a good wine though. This was the third or fourth time I've had this, and, excepting the first bottle which I sadly mishandled on the way to a blind competition, they have shown very well - less than stellar vintage or otherwise.
Deep, serious and broad in its well structured gravel, darkly spiced black currants and cassis, cedar, violets; I swear if tasted blind I wouldn't guess this to be from 1999. With added aeration in glass, black cherry and a bit of plumminess emerge. Admirable balance and structure, this will get even better with more age. Much as we enjoyed it, Jojo Madrid and I think that it still has a lot of room for evolution. Great to be able to have this again. Another tip of the hat need be made to Bernie for acquiring these for the Society' cellar at a virtual song en primeur. (15th October 2009)
1999 Brane Cantenac & 1999 Léoville las Cases:
1999 Château Brane Cantenac - Also from the Vigneron. Without any decanting or material aeration, it displayed an openly alluring nose of lightly truffled, smoky-sweet cedar, raspberry liqueur, plum, cassis, violets and leather. In the mouth, it was moderately muscular, decidedly masculine, the flavors mirroring its aromas but with leather more apparent, some added coffee grounds and noticeable toasty new oak as well. This, together with the following red and the likes of Latour, Margaux, Lafite-Rothschild, Mouton Rothschild, Léoville Poyferré, Lynch Bages, Malescot St-Exupery, Grand Puy Lacoste and Siran serve to confirm to me that 1999 is an under-appreciated Bordeaux vintage.
While vintage rains caused many concerns regarding dilution, in my experience, however, with the mentioned châteaux, said concerns are grossly exaggerated. Although few I've tried managed to acheive their usual levels of power and concentration (a notable exception is Latour), I do not think this is a bad thing in light of the general overly (to me) modern thrust of many producers.
This is yet another well-performing 1999. Happily, due to professional reviewers' coolness to the vintage, good '99 Bdx are priced at relative bargains.
1999 Château Léoville las Cases - My bottle. Last I tried this was almost a year ago at Rene's birthday dinner; and, before that was in late September 2005 at a blind IWFS tasting. It is coming along very well. The Doc, who has recently gone through a few bottles of this, agrees with me that this is yet another very good 1999 Médoc. My notes from Rene's dinner (23 November 2008) are as follows:Now, it is lush, powerful, intensely masculine with deep profiles of cassis, earthy dark fruit, tobacco, lead pencil shavings, leather and violets. Not a big bruiser at all, it is a suave and correct fellow, but one you definitely wouldn't want to mess with. Superior balance, elegantly smooth, finely layered, with a long, confident finish. The red of the night for me, without a doubt.
Because of Rene's bottle, I bought some of my own. Almost a year later, the '99 las Cases (decanted for around an hour) seems to have put on more weight and muscle, but is still very harmonious and balanced. It has an added nuance of gravel and a touch of warm asphalt as well. Its darkly masculine, powerful character is noticeably toned down compared to strong vintages like '96, '86, 85 and '82, and it is materially less severe and tannic as well (especially compared to the '86). The structure/power is undeniably there, however, but in a more approachable fashion.
Very nice now and, in my opinion, with many years of added complexity and depth ahead.(12th September 2009)
1999 Pape-Clément:
Later on, I had a small pour of the 1999 Château Pape-Clément. I recently had a short discussion on a local wine website with the Stockbroker about Bernard Magrez's wines, Pape-Clément in particular. For those unfamiliar, Magrez is a very successful producer in that he consistently gets high scores from Parker, Pape-Clément is certainly not cheap, and yet it sells pretty well, especially in the powerful US market. Magrez-era Pape-Clément is marked by pronounced new oak, a lot of concentration, ripeness and extraction (surely a formula that suits the emperor's palate). This 1999 is no exception. It, to me, is a designer wine.
It's not that I shun this style, though - Pape-Clément was actually on my list of recommended 2004 Pessac-Léognans. My most memorable Pape-Clément was the 1985. Though Bernard Magrez already started managing the estate that year, I do not believe he had implemented his decidedly modern style that early. The 1985, which I opened at the farewell dinner of good friend, Hervé Pourcines, showed no sign of it anyway. (8th September 2009)
1999 Latour:
Wine #2 - Initial rusty topnotes in the nose gave way to dark minerals, herbaceous, touch of green pepper over dark fruit laced with asphalt. In the mouth, it was the most commanding, deeply fruited, lush and powerful. Notes of black coffee, dark chocolate and a bit of tar underpinned the blackcurrant, cassis, violets, cherry, dried tamarind, bit of cedar. Not a great nose, but, in the mouth, it was, to me, the best by far. I ranked it 1st Place. It was my 1999 Château Latour (double decanted: just under 3 hours at home and poured back into bottle for transport to the evening's venue). (Blind; 20th August 2009)
1999 Lynch Bages:
1999 Château Lynch Bages - My bottle. I opened another of these a week before at Gerhard Kropp's dinner at Tosca. My notes then are consistent with last night's bottle save that the latter's cedar notes were a bit more pronounced and it was marginally less creamy in texture:
"Classic Bordeaux nose of cedar, cassis, pencil shavings, violets, hints of tobacco and a mere whispers of asphalt, licorice and minerality. A few notches below full-bodied, this is open, with an approachable character to its smooth, curved, somewhat creamy-textured mirrored aromas. Noteworthy balance. Already very enjoyable but can improve and gain more depth. Very good show, everyone enjoyed this bottle." (17th June 2009)
Nb: Some other notable 1999s that come immediately to mind are Margaux, Haut Brion, Lafite Rothschild, Malescot-St-Exupery, Siran and Branaire-Ducru.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
45469
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Jenise wrote:Covert, I changed your subject title to add "Open Mike": we invented that convention for just this kind of post. I'm dying to see if my Leoville Bartons (not useful to you, I realize, since this isn't a house you care for) have come around--I thought they were fading a year ago, but others said oh no, they're still going up. Anyway, come the weekend, I'll contribute.
David M. Bueker
Childless Cat Dad
36364
Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 am
Connecticut
David M. Bueker wrote:Time for me to drag out a '99 Barton as well.
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
45469
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
James Dietz
Wine guru
1236
Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
Orange County, California
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
45469
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
James Dietz
Wine guru
1236
Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
Orange County, California
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
12044
Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
James Dietz
Wine guru
1236
Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
Orange County, California
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
45469
Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
James Dietz
Wine guru
1236
Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
Orange County, California
Jenise wrote:Jim, sounds like a match for my bottle and that's not good news!
Jenise wrote:Jim, sounds like a match for my bottle and that's not good news!
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