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WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by Rahsaan » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:18 pm

I found myself in Montreal this weekend for the first time in a long time and it was deliciously good. In many ways. (Except the rain).

For dinner one night I was pleased to order the 2007 Bernard Baudry Chinon Les Grézeaux which was delicious and real from the moment we opened it. But we probably didn’t give it enough time for the texture or the more expressive Grézeaux flavors to develop. But even if my critical mouth found it tilting tight, nobody else cared and it was fun regardless. Plus that expressiveness may take a few years?

I also made sure to compare the Fairmount and St-Viateur bagels. Which is conveniently done since they have shops so close to each other.

Can’t say that I was anal enough to find any significant differences between the two shops. Maybe slightly denser and chewier at Fairmount? (We’re talking sesame here). But that could just as easily be bagel-to-bagel variation and not house-style variation. My sample size was too small to tell. On a more superficial level, Fairmount definitely lost some points in my book for the blueberry chocolate mocha bagels. But whatever helps pay the rent.

And as a picky New Yorker who has found very few ‘real’ bagels on this planet, I had to give both of these shops my respect.
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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by AlexR » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:55 am

Ah, bagels...

As rare as hen's teeth here.
Unfortunately, the ones I found in the Jewish quarter of Paris (Le Marais/rue des Rosiers) were not up to scratch.

I have even dreamed of importing a machine and setting up a business.
I'm sure there's a market, and the damned things freeze pretty well!
(the frozen food chain Picard sells them, but they're pretty poor)...

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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by Rahsaan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:56 am

AlexR wrote:I'm sure there's a market, and the damned things freeze pretty well!


People say that, but I've never really been convinced. I guess frozen bread can do alright in a toasted preparation, but it never has the zip of fresh bread.

That said, it's not like you're in a bread/pastry wasteland, so I don't feel too bad for you! :wink:
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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by AlexR » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:11 am

Rahssan,

It's true: in the balance fresh baguette, fougasse, viennoiserie, etc. more than make up for the lack of bagels.
Still, some of us want *everything* :-).

OK, fresh is better than frozen. But I'm the kind of guy who likes a toasted bagel in any event.
I'm not sure that a toasted frozen bagel is any worse than a fresh one...

Now cream cheese is another issue... There's a cheese here called Saint Moret that pretty much approximates cream cheese.
But you can't find any whipped or (yum) with scallions...

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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by Diane (Long Island) » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:46 am

My 2 year old granddaughter, likes goat cheese spread on her bagel. Alex, while you have no trouble getting goat cheese, you still have that bagel dilemma.
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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by David M. Bueker » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:35 pm

I miss my bagel shop... :cry:
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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by Matt Richman » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:43 pm

Suggesting that a frozen then toasted bagel is not much different from a fresh toasted one is the bagel equivalent of suggesting that freezing wine would make no difference.

Alex, you are just going to have to come back and visit NYC. And when you do, let me know and we'll set up an offline (for wine, not bagels).
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Re: WTN: Chinon and Bagels (Not together)

by AlexR » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:50 pm

Matt,

I accept your offer with pleasure.

Might be a while, but I'll be there...

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