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WTN - Recent Tastes

by John S » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:49 pm

One interesting wine I tried recently was the 2007 Domaine St Prefert Charles Giraud CDP - my first 2007 CDP. I could see why some people love and some people hate this vintage. There was an overt sweetness to the wine, which was a real turnoff for me, mainly on the front palate. But there was no doubt this was an increadibly tasty wine - the flavours were lovely, and definitely CDP, if rather a modern style (no surprise with St Prefert). Will the sweetness subside as the fruit ages? I suspect it will, but there's a hell of a lot of 'puppy fat' on this wine right now. I probably won't buy too much 2007 CDP, mainly because of the prices, and I have a fair bit of mainly the 2001-2006 vintages (and a few older), but this one made me think about it.

The three Don Melchors were good as always as well. All were still young - they haven't moved much at all since we tried them about 2 years ago. Speaking of yound wines, the 1998, 1999 and 2001 Brunellos we tried one night were all really young, and tannic as hell, even with extended decanting.

  • 2002 Kilikanoon Cabernet Sauvignon Blocks Road - Australia, South Australia, Mount Lofty Ranges, Clare Valley (3/19/2010)
    Notes from second night. Deep brick, almost purple in colour, with lots of redfruit and toast on the nose. Pretty full bodied on the smooth, fruit-forward palate, with not many tannins to speak of. It's a nice enough wine, but tastes more like a shiraz/cab blend than a straight cabernet to me - not a lot of varietal character here. But a concentrated, well balanced, mouthcoating wine, though lacking any 'soul'. This was a bit better on the second night, with more blackfruit coming out. A solid, though fairly unidimensional wine. (B/B+)
  • 2000 Domaine St. Benoit Châteauneuf-du-Pape Grande Garde - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape (3/17/2010)
    This was much better than I was expecting. I don't know the amount of mouvedre in the wine, but it really stood out, in a good way. It had that lovely, earthy and leather note that this variety provides. Medium bodied, old school, and a burgundian styled CDP - very smooth, silky, sophisticated and elegant. Drinking really well now, but should last a few years. (A-)
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  • 1999 Castello Banfi Brunello di Montalcino - Italy, Tuscany, Montalcino, Brunello di Montalcino (3/11/2010)
    Had this a few days ago with two other Brunellos (1998 and 2001). All of the wine showed a lovely wild berry (mainly red fruit) nose and palate, but showed a lot more tannin than I was expecting. This wine started out lovely - medium-full bodied, nicely concentrated - but the tannins clamped down pretty hard, even after a 3 hour decant. If you have some, wait on it - 3 years minimum. (A-)
  • 2002 Pfaffenheim Gewurztraminer Steinert - France, Alsace, Westhalten, Alsace Grand Cru AOC (3/7/2010)
    Had this tonight with a curried pork stew dish. Lovely, classic Alsace gewurtz here, with a lvely rose petal nose, and a thick, fairly rich, off dry palate with lots of tropical fruit and a hint of botrytis. Nice balance, drinking well now. (A-)
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  • 2003 Tua Rita Bolgheri Perlato del Bosco - Italy, Tuscany, Bolgheri (3/3/2010)
    Hazy notes from a few days ago. This had an absolutely gorgeous nose, but the palate just didn't match this effort. The wine was a little angular, with some dryness and healthy acids: it really screamed for food, and I'm sure it would have performed much better with some pasta or meat. A nice earthy note was nice on the medium-bodied, slightly rustic palate. (B+)
  • 2005 Mitolo Shiraz G.A.M. - Australia, South Australia, Fleurieu, McLaren Vale (3/3/2010)
    Had this a couple of days ago. No notes, but this was a pleasant, if unidimensional wine. Some meaty notes on the palate, which I always love in my sryah/shiraz, but I thought it was basically a solid, very smooth, nicely textured wine - just rather simple. (B+)
  • 2003 Concha y Toro Cabernet Sauvignon Don Melchor (Private Reserve) - Chile, Central Valley, Maipo Valley, Puente Alto (3/3/2010)
    Had the 2004, 2003 and 2002 last night. Didn't take notes, but this was a remarkably consistent and excellent trio of wines. Each weren't quite ready for prime time, even with extending decanting. Blackberries with a slight hint of mint and tar on the noses, and a concentrated, structured similar profile on the full bodied palate. Hard to pick a favourite, although the 2002 was drinking best, but the 2004 was my favourite by a nose, even though it was the most tannic right now. It's not a crime to drink these now, but they have a lot of time left in them, as they have considreable tannins and still a hint of oak. I'd score all these vintages in the 92-93 point range. Great stuff! (A-)
  • 2003 Philippe Delesvaux Coteaux du Layon St. Aubin - France, Loire Valley, Anjou-Saumur, Coteaux du Layon (2/20/2010)
    A light golden colour, with a light nose of rotten fruit (in a nice way), and a wooly mineral note. Definitely off-dry on the medium-full bodied palate, with apricots, pineapple, orange, pear, lime and red apple. Quite viscous on the palate, but not heavy; medium long finish. Good balance, although a touch more acidity would be nice. Almost dessert wine in style, but not quite. Lovely wine right now, but it could last a few more years I suspect. (A-)
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  • 2006 Patricia Green Cellars Pinot Noir Estate Old Vine Ribbon Ridge - USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley, Ribbon Ridge (2/18/2010)
    Medium brick in colour, with a lovely nose of earthy cherries, barnyard and mushroon. Medium-bodied flavours of more earthy cherries. chocolate, and sandalwood. There's a lovely silky texture and elegance to this wine, especially for a 2006: lovely OR pinot. (A-)
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by Rahsaan » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:52 pm

John S wrote:2003 Philippe Delesvaux Coteaux du Layon St. Aubin...rotten fruit (in a nice way)...Definitely off-dry on the medium-full bodied palate, with apricots, pineapple, orange, pear, lime and red apple...Good balance, although a touch more acidity would be nice. Almost dessert wine in style, but not quite.


The point about being able to handle more acidity makes sense. But 'off-dry' and 'almost dessert wine' sounds a little light for an 03 Layon. Is Delesvaux's style always this restrained?
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by John S » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:33 am

Well, this was just the 'basic' Coteaux du Layon, so I didn't expect a full on dessert style; but it was a little sweeter than I would have expected - maybe that's the 2003 vintage coming into play (i.e., low acids)? A very nice wine, though, especially for the price.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by R Cabrera » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:19 am

John S wrote:One interesting wine I tried recently was the 2007 Domaine St Prefert Charles Giraud CDP - my first 2007 CDP. I could see why some people love and some people hate this vintage. There was an overt sweetness to the wine, which was a real turnoff for me, mainly on the front palate.


I’m not convinced that it’s attributable to the vintage alone, but I’ve tasted wines from this producer since, iirc, the 2003 vintage and I remember always having been turned off due to the overt sweetness of their wines.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by Rahsaan » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:30 am

John S wrote:Well, this was just the 'basic' Coteaux du Layon, so I didn't expect a full on dessert style; but it was a little sweeter than I would have expected - maybe that's the 2003 vintage coming into play (i.e., low acids)? A very nice wine, though, especially for the price.


Ok. I would think that the vintage character is definitely low acid.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by Jenise » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:08 am

Do you think the Tua Rita was lacking or just in a dormant phase for now? Wouldn't expect an 03 to be so dumb, but when a nose is fab and the palate isn't, I usually think it's just not the right time to be drinking that wine.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:13 am

John S wrote:Well, this was just the 'basic' Coteaux du Layon, so I didn't expect a full on dessert style; but it was a little sweeter than I would have expected - maybe that's the 2003 vintage coming into play (i.e., low acids)? A very nice wine, though, especially for the price.


Thanks John, seen downtown. Will have to check which vintage.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by John S » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:49 pm

Jenise wrote:Do you think the Tua Rita was lacking or just in a dormant phase for now? Wouldn't expect an 03 to be so dumb, but when a nose is fab and the palate isn't, I usually think it's just not the right time to be drinking that wine.

Yes, that's usually my impression too: when the nose is better than the palate, then it often just needs time. Of course, one never really knows for sure! There was centainly no sense this wine was in decline yet.
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Re: WTN - Recent Tastes

by John S » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:53 pm

R Cabrera wrote:I’m not convinced that it’s attributable to the vintage alone, but I’ve tasted wines from this producer since, iirc, the 2003 vintage and I remember always having been turned off due to the overt sweetness of their wines.

Hmm, interesting. I have a few of their wines from the 2003 vintage onward as well, but I haven't tried any of them yet. I hope the sweetness lessens with age! I love off dry wines, but not in CDP! :?

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