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WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Bill Spohn » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:21 pm

A nice sunny day in early spring was enough inspiration for me to get my balls out and have people over for a bocce and crostini wine chat.

Clos du Ch. de Mosny Montlouis nv – a methode champenoise wine that I just love, made from Chenin Blanc and all apples and cream.

2007 Poets Leap Riesling – an Alan Shoup Longshadow wine from Washington state, this showed very well, with correct varietal nose, a slight spritz impression and smooth feel and end. Similar to a Kabinett. It inspired me to bring out a BC wine to taste against it.

2005 Tantalus Old Vine Riesling – tried a bottle of this on release and decided it needs a couple of years of age. This one showed beautifully – a petrol sort of nose that would have fit in perfectly with a German tasting, crisp and clean on palate with some pina colada stuff happening and a long finish. Pulled straight from the cellar which was about right for serving temperature. Just ordered some 2007 for the cellar. Certainly the best BC Riesling I have tasted.

Pleiades XVI – this Thackry wine was brewed up using syrah, barbera, carignon petit sirah, sangiovese and Viognier, no doubt with a few other odds and sods tossed in as well. This sort of Heinz approach to wine making can easily backfire, but it seems to work out well most times for this producer. The nose on this was particularly interesting, a melange of slight must, walnut skin, spice, cinnamon, a little mint, and a few others I probably didn’t write down. Medium bodied and drinking well right now with bright finish. A really annoying wine if served at a blind tasting, for sure!

2007 Dom. de Cristia Cotes du Rhone – the excuse for this gathering was for a friend to pick up a case of the 2008 of this wine that we’d split, so I figured opening a 2007 to remind us would be fun. Big spicy cherry nose, obviously Rhone, light tannin, good fruit – while this one will last a few years, I sense it may not get the chance in my cellar!

2006 Torbreck Juveniles – this Grenache, mataro, shiraz blend actually showed some brett in the nose, which I thought was going a bit far, importing common Rhone flaws for the sake of verisimilitude….but it came off well and the wine as bright and finished well if a tad edgy.

October 2000 Alain Brumont Pacherenc de Vic Bilh – I love these wines and so seldom see them outside of the madiran where I last tasted them. No one is likely to guess petit manseng for varietal, so another good stumper for the blind tastings. A molleux wine, not too sweet, it showed sweet apricot and almonds in the nose and maybe a faint hint of vanilla, and was well balanced, only a bit sweet with good acidity. These wines often remind me of an Alsatian vendage tardives in terms of balance and acid/residual impressions.
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Jenise » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:55 pm

Sorry again for being late. Believe me, I would definitely rather have been playing bocce than explaining to Blaine's Finest why I was going 40 in the 25.

Clos du Ch. de Mosny Montlouis nv – What you said. A wonderful bubble.

2007 Poets Leap Riesling – I brought this. I don't think it bears any resemblance to a true German riesling, but it's an elegant new world presentation that I like a lot.

2005 Tantalus Old Vine Riesling – This wine had the Germanic verve that the Poets Leap lacked, very complex with that coconut-lime thing on the nose and the petrol flavors. Blind, I'd have never guessed it wasn't the real deal. Easily the best new world version of riesling I've ever had. WOW.

Pleiades XVI – Also my wine. As I said yesterday, I've never had a Pleiades I didn't like, and it's remarkable the extent to which Sean mixes up the grapes in each batch (viognier!) and get a different result every time and yet the whole manages to always taste like a Sean Thackery wine. What you call mint and what I'd call eucalyptus is certainly a large component of that. This has put on weight and funk since the last bottle I tasted a year ago, and where then I thought the XVI would have a shorter than usual future after yesterday I'm not so convinced.

2007 Dom. de Cristia Cotes du Rhone – Delightful, can't improve on your description.

2006 Torbreck Juveniles – This wine caused an interesting conversation about good brett vs bad. Funk I like, sulfur I don't. REALLY don't. And when I put my nose in the glass sulfur was ALL I smelled. With time it calmed down a bit, but this isn't a wine for sulfur-intolerant individuals like me.

2000 Alain Brumont Pacherenc de Vic Bilh – Loved this. However, would have guessed it to be older than 2000, it was so deep honey colored and all. That, I suppose, was the petite manseng talking?
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:43 pm

Tantalus is a brand new name for me and seems to demand attention. Was this a cellar-door sale?

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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Bill Spohn » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:51 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Tantalus is a brand new name for me and seems to demand attention. Was this a cellar-door sale?

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No, it does make it down to the coast.
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Jenise » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:41 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Tantalus is a brand new name for me and seems to demand attention. Was this a cellar-door sale?

Doris.


Doris, our friend Coop who was also there declared it the best BC wine he's ever had. It was THAT good.
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:53 am

Jenise, tracked down Tantalus. Metrovino in Calgary has some!
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Jenise » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:03 pm

Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Jenise, tracked down Tantalus. Metrovino in Calgary has some!


Good catch, Bob. Bill said his had screaming acids on release but finds it perfect now. Hope yours is/are as good.
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Re: WTN: Mosny, Pleiades, Cristia, Torbreck, Brumont

by Ben Rotter » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:49 pm

Bill Spohn wrote:2006 Torbreck Juveniles – this Grenache, mataro, shiraz blend actually showed some brett in the nose, which I thought was going a bit far, importing common Rhone flaws for the sake of verisimilitude….but it came off well and the wine as bright and finished well if a tad edgy.

Jenise wrote:2006 Torbreck Juveniles – This wine caused an interesting conversation about good brett vs bad. Funk I like, sulfur I don't. REALLY don't. And when I put my nose in the glass sulfur was ALL I smelled. With time it calmed down a bit, but this isn't a wine for sulfur-intolerant individuals like me.


Are you guys sure it was Brett? (Afterall, Mataro/Mourvedre has a tendancy to be a little animally in character.) Plus, if the wine smelled of sulfur (and I assume you mean sulfite and not sulfides) - indicating plenty of SO2 - then it's less likely Brett would have been active. Of course you may mean sulfides, in which case it could be a funky reductive creature.

Personally, I'd welcome more funk in Aussie reds, and the odd touch of Brett would be nice too (and yes, I think I'd probably be willing to lose the occassional bottle to complete Brett-induced destruction for such a status quo).

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