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01 Charvin, 85 La Mission, 77 Taylor's

by AlexR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:22 pm

Hi,

Six friends came over to dinner last night, so I was not at my leisure to take any detailed notes…

For the aperitif, we had:
- Lustau Almacenista Oloroso (Angel Zamorano): dark, nutty, fresh, aromatic and seemed mostly dry to me. The French generally do not like Sherry, but my guests enthused about this, also considering it terribly exotic…
- 2001 Domaine de Carbonnieu, Sauternes: this is a sleeper, a little-known wine from the wrong side of the tracks that is tremendous value for money. This was my last of six bottles. It was showing signs of premature maturity, especially in terms of appearance, but was still complex and well-balanced, with a long aftertaste displaying that touch of bitterness that I always like to counterbalance the sweetness.

With fish soup we had:
2007 Hamilton Russell Chardonnay (South Africa). This didn't make much of an impression other than the attractive packaging! The tropical fruit aspects were very much under control and the wine was neither overoaked nor too alcoholic. However, it lacked personality and showed a harsh acidity. That having been said, I retasted the wine the next morning and came away with a better impression, and found it to be much changed and more "Burgundian" in character.

With roast beef:
2001 Domaine Charvin, Châteauneuf du Pape. A friend in Switzerland called up in the afternoon and mentioned that he had had this same wine not long ago, and found it closed-in and not very forthcoming. I had tried it a year and half ago with Harry Karis (author of the CDP Wine Book), and found it very elegant and smooth, which is why I wanted to serve it blind. In light of my friend's comment, I decanted the wine 6 hours before serving it, which seemed to help. While it's true that the nose was not overly expressive, the wine was as I remembered it on the palate. Not any brooding monster this CdP, which could nevertheless used a few more years in bottle to show its best. As for the guessing game, my guests only suggested the Rhône Valley after several tries. This confirms my impression that Charvin is not necessarily typical of its appellation (not that this should be interpreted as a criticism!).

With cheese:
2005 La Mission Haut Brion: I was fortunate to have half a case of this and have followed it through the years. Some of the bottles had a bretty nose, but not this one. The color was just about as it should be and the bouquet was wonderful: tobacco leaves, earth, pencil shavings… Very fine indeed. Also classic and well-balanced on the palate with a long aftertaste that is just starting to dry out. At this stage the wine is, in my opinion, slightly past its best, although it will go on for years.

With dessert (baked stuffed apples)!
1977 Taylor's: God, these wines must be built for eternity! At the age of 33, this it was still vigorous and even still had a spirity side to it. Ripe, satisfying, and a very nice way to end the meal although I'm left wondering it such wines represent good value for money (compared to other Ports, that is).

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Alex R.
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Re: 01 Charvin, 85 La Mission, 77 Taylor's

by Dale Williams » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:32 pm

Alex, did you have something rich a la foie gras to make you use a Sauternes as an appetizer, or is that something you often do?
I get disqualified from true wine geekdom because I just don't get sherry,
I believe you need an edit, title (and note) sounds like '85 LMHB
Thanks for notes
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Re: 01 Charvin, 85 La Mission, 77 Taylor's

by AlexR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:59 pm

Hi Dale,

>>>Alex, did you have something rich a la foie gras to make you use a Sauternes as an appetizer, or is that something you often do?

In my experience, Sauternes is more often served as an apéritif than anything else in Bordeaux.
Foie gras is runner-up.
Of course, there are many other options... One I especially like is a vol au vent, bouchée à la reine, or other puff pastry with goodies (such as shellfish or sweetbread) and possibly a sauce.

Yesterday evening, I served the Sauternes as an apéritif with:
- English biscuits slathered with a (prepared) snail and snail butter spread
- English biscuits slathered with a (prepared) eggplant and red bell pepper spread
- a bowl of roasted cashews

Believe it or not, Sauternes also works well with juicy delicious olives, preferably black.
That salty/sweet thing..

>>>I get disqualified from true wine geekdom because I just don't get sherry

As said in my post, most French people don't get Sherry either.
As much as I liked the Oloroso, the Sherry I like best is a bone dry, light, and fruity fino - in which case I drink it more like a normal table wine than a fortifie wine.

>>>I believe you need an edit, title (and note) sounds like '85 LMHB

I my geeky circles, La Mission is the same LMHB.
A chacun son shorthand!

All the best,
Alex
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Re: 01 Charvin, 85 La Mission, 77 Taylor's

by Fredrik L » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:05 pm

Alex, the problem isn´t "LMHB" but "2005"! The 2005 shouldn´t be slightly past its best, should it? :wink:

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Re: 01 Charvin, 85 La Mission, 77 Taylor's

by AlexR » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:18 pm

Ah, gotcha, yes indeed, typing error.

It was the 1985, not the 2005!

Alex

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