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WTN: white wedding

by Mark S » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:13 am

Szent Ilona, Borhaz, 'Tradicio', 2006 (Nagy-Somlo)
Sorry, no punctuation marks for Hungarian. I thought this white made from an indigenous blend of three grapes (Harslevelu, furmint, juhfark) would be interesting to try, and I was mildly rewarded for buying this. The color is a flat, medium gold, with honeyed lemon-curd aromas. Gives a little bit more in the mouth, with lemon Riccolo, butternuts, and good minerality. In some ways, it reminds me of Ribolla Gialla: a flatish, non-descript wine with little aromatic sense and a banker or accountant's bookish neutrality. At under $20, it's worth a try, but if it tilts to $30 or over, I'd pass. Had this open for several days, with no degradation. 13.5% B+

Schiopetto, Collio, Tocai Friulano, 2006
Color is a bright, clear, clean light gold. Dullish aromatic nose of brin d'amour cheese, nectar-like sugar water (like the kind left out to attract butterflies and hummingbirds), and bright colored flowers. Has the dullish finish of many native Friulian wines, light in the mouth despite the high alcohol (14.5%), with a nice florality of honey and lemon verbena, daffodils, and other spring flowers, finishing with a nice gerwurz-like spice, and decent acidity. medium-bodied despite the highish alcohol. A- Would try again, in spite of the price (around $33).

Joh. Jos. Christoffel, Erdener Treppchen, riesling, A**, 2002
Glistening pale gold. Kumquats and pineapple on the nose and palate, light in weight, good acidity, and a lon-lasting tangy, spicy finish. A- [Ap# 2 602 041 009 03]
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Re: WTN: white wedding

by Jenise » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:24 am

The common wisdom is that Hungarian whites are totally delicious when experienced there but that they don't travel well, let alone hold what, almost four years? Having actually been there myself, I can attest that seems true but at the same time it's impossible to calculate the effect walking down a moutainside on a sunny day beside Lake Balaton while gypsy violins woo you at every turn while tasting at one house/winery after another has on one's sense of reason. All things considered, your bottle seems quite impressive!
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Re: WTN: white wedding

by Dan Donahue » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:30 pm

Mark,

Ribolla is one of my favorite varieties. I've yet to have one that is flatish, non-descript or neutral. Have you tried any by Jermann, Radikon or Gravner?
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Re: WTN: white wedding

by Mark S » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:55 pm

Dan Donahue wrote:Mark,

Ribolla is one of my favorite varieties. I've yet to have one that is flatish, non-descript or neutral. Have you tried any by Jermann, Radikon or Gravner?


Dan, I've had the Radikon, but not Gravner's or Jermann's (both of their wines I've had have been blends). I don't find ribolla to have a bright quality. Drinking them reminds me of either slurping pulque or of wine being made under a cover, as if something is suffocating the finish. It's rather hard to describe the quality, but I find it from this grape variety more so than many others. The Jermann blended wines of Capo Martino & Vintage Tunina are composite wines, and in my eyes, much better than unblended ribolla, and Gravner & Radikon are a whole 'nuther story, being orange wines more than anything representative of their grape varieties. I think the blended whites from Fruili are much more interesting than the monovarietal ones, which is not always the same case elsewhere in Italy.
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Re: WTN: white wedding

by Dan Donahue » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:08 pm

Different strokes, I guess.

Like you I tend to prefer the blends (Vintage Tunina is easily my favorite Italian white) but I don't find Ribolla on its own to be that dull. If anything--especially with some age--they can get pretty racy. That whole orange thing.
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Re: WTN: white wedding

by David M. Bueker » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:43 pm

Of course now I have to unleash a pun holy war based on Billy Idol. Watch the board for an upcoming tasting note.
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