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WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Dale Williams » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:31 am

Some friends asked us if we would join them for dinner at the St Andrews Cafe at the Culinary Institute of American in Hyde Park. I hurried home from work and we drove north. arriving just in time. My first time on this campus (quite nice and collegial, though the route from parking to restaurants could be better defined)

This evening was part of their dinner series, the theme was Slow & Savory Cooking. Just in case it sounds like I'm carping/complaining, let me say at the outset that I had a good time, I found the kids delightful in their trying so hard, and the food was mostly good.

There was a nice bread basket brought out (including cheese biscuits that I really loved), and then an amuse of crusted goat cheese topped with candied pecan and orange. Tasty, but crust separating, and I personally thought a dish that would have been far better hot than room temp. They brought the wine for the first course, a bubbly, the NV Clinton "Naturel" (I believe Hudson Valley AVA) I wasn't at all fond of this wine, canned pears with a metallic edge, a little sweetness, short, herbal. C

The first real course was my favorite of the night, a slow-roasted cauliflower and garlic soup with beet chips on top (and black truffles, though I only got one tiny bit that I noticed). Really a wonderful soup, and a perfect thing on a cold cold night.

The next course was braised beef short rib ravioli with pecorino and a side of caramelized onions. Filling great, ravioli could use a little work. Now, one can see into the kitchen, and in front of the kitchen was the bar. A student was very carefully filling glasses (I think about 40 people were in dining room), and servers brought out the glasses. I sniffed my Merlot, uh oh. I'm not the most sensitive, but this is clearly corked. Betsy agrees, and once I explain to Rachel what corked is (they aren't wine geeks) she clearly gets the cardboard smell. Joe doesn't, but Betsy does from his glass, I think he is just TCA insensitive. I quietly ask the waiter to have the wine guy from faculty smell the wine, as I think it's corked. We see intense discussion, but not much sniffing. Eventually a student and faculty member bring over 4 new glasses, and it's night and day. No cardboard, the 2006 Bonterra Merlot (Mendocino) is a fairly fruit forward plummy wine, red fruit accented with smoke and a little vanilla. Not very long, but not corked! B-

Next up, lamb shank stew with glazed root vegetables (rutabaga, celeriac, and carrots) and caramelized pearl onions, topped with fried onion. Lamb could use a tad more seasoning, but good. Unfortunately, the wine (2006 Alexander Valley Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon) wasn't - corked again. I found it corked (though not as dramatically as the Merlot), Betsy too, Rachel said "hey,it smells the same as first glass of the last wine, but I like the taste," Joe doesn't notice. They didn't mind, and Betsy and I quietly agreed that we'd just live with it (it had been a production that took 8 or 10 minutes before). So I didn't drink mine. I know the arguments for calling over waiter, but at this point I didn't want wine flaws to be focus of evening. I don't eat desserts, but others enjoyed lilttle sampler plate with creme brulee, chococlate tart, and cherry chocolate brioche pudding.

Fun night. But I'll write a note to CIA. Now, I'm not super-senstive, about average, I tend to find maybe 3% corked. So chances are about one in a thousand of me finding two corked wines in a row, but it happened. Though it took some time, they handled the first sendback well. I'm sure they would have with second, too. However, it seems to me that those wines should never have made it to table. Part of teaching service should be identifying flaws in a non-bottle service enviroment. If student doesn't know about TCA, someone else should be there to check. The difference between the flawed bottles and a fresh bottle would be readily apparent side by side, even if one didn't know "corked" (unless they were genetically insensitive). I mean, I sent back the Merlot, and it was my choice to stay mum about the Cabernet. However, I think the pours were roughly 4 ounces, so I'd assume 2 more glasses from each bottle were floating around room. I know many (most?) people don't pay attention to wine, and even less understand re TCA, but my guess is those people enjoyed their wine less than a clean bottle. Checking the wine for correctness should be done before wines by the glass are sent to table. It would be useful for a student even just to learn if they were among the insensitive.

Overall, despite the wine angst, a very fun night. I'd do again (though next time we'd go for a B&B, too much driving. Luckily, since my consumption was probably 6 ounces (2 ounces of bubbly, 4 ounces of replacement Merlot) over 2.5 hours, no driving issues.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.  
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Peter May » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:28 pm

It's bad enough to hav eto send back one faulty wine but then to get a second!

I dread that moment when they open the second bottle and you're praying that the cork doesn't come from the same batch.

But to get a second wine that is different and corked! Yeesh. I can understand why you kept quiet.
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Dale Williams » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:07 am

With service staff (maybe they were first year students) obviously unfamiliar with TCA, one thought that occurred to me was if I sent back a second wine, it might make them think people who send back wines are just unreasonable. I figured with a long drive home did I really need an Alexander Valley CS?

In any case, with my guess of 3% corked being my norm recently, that's a 1 in a 1000 chance to have both reds corked (if it's closer to 5%, which used to be my average, it would be 1 in 400). Of course, if you figure it rather on what are the chances of eventually having 2 in a row in the stream of all the wines I taste, less unlikely.
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Oswaldo Costa » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:32 pm

Great post, and a lesson in being a gentleman.
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Drew Hall » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:20 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:Great post, and a lesson in being a gentleman.


Yes, I could see some overbearing individual performing about the corked wines totally forgetting the purpose of the evening. Corked wines are funny. Hadn’t found one in several years, until this past Christmas, and then 3 in the last 4 weeks and all different producers.

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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Hannu Lehmusvuori » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:45 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:Great post, and a lesson in being a gentleman.


Some years ago I tried the gentlemanly approach on a boat between Finland and Estonia. Ofcourse the circumtances are different. On a boat one is just a paying customer. I noticed the wine to be a bit faulty, but gave it an o.k. My mistake. My wife disagreed.

When we called the up-and-up waiter back to complain, his first reaction was to inform us that perhaps we are not used to a fullbodied wine :lol:

It took a lot of convincing before he took the bottle from the table, and (what I find funny) had it checked by the chief of waiters. So much for his expertise in wines!

Ofcourse a new, totally healthy, bottle arrived on our table, but with a look on the waiter's face that was not very pleasing to watch. - Otherwise the meal was great when we just stopped thinking about the service.
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Jenise » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:51 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:Great post, and a lesson in being a gentleman.


Seconded!
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Sam Platt » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:59 am

I've only been served corked wine in a restaurant on three occasions. On one occasion everyone was raving about the corked wine, so I just kept my mouth shut and let it go. The other two times the wait staff was very cooperative. One of the corked wine experiences was at Olive Garden (no chuckling). The manager actually had his entire wait staff come over and sniff the bad wine, so that they would be able to identify it in the future. That really did impress me.
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Re: WTN: Corked wines at the CIA

by Dale Williams » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:17 am

Sam Platt wrote: The manager actually had his entire wait staff come over and sniff the bad wine, so that they would be able to identify it in the future. That really did impress me.


I had the same thing happen at a LAtin seafood place in Port Chester, NY called Pacifico. A Sauvignon Blanc was corked, when we pointed out to waiter, he brought to headwaiter. Headwaiter opened fresh bottle, and had waitstaff smell both. Definitely the way to teach.

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