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Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Tom NJ » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:20 pm

I kinda miss the 1980's. Especially the early 80's, when (in America anyway) a lot less people knew about wine. Back then, back before various factors catapulted prices up over the moon, even a student with a crummy part-time job could afford to drink really really really well if they knew anything at all. I mean, I was 20 years old and my house (dorm) wine was Chateau Gloria, which could be had for around 7 or 8 dollars a bottle. I had a soft spot for Stag's Leap, but that was a buck or two more. Although I could get their 2nd label (Hawk Crest) for around 5. If a girl was coming over I'd usually spend a little more and get a Chateau Beychevelle or a Hospices de Beaune, or if I knew she preferred white a Matanzas Creek chard (Merry Edwards, how I miss you and your big oak wand!). And once, flinging all care to the winds, I scraped up EIGHTY DOLLARS for a 15 year old La Tache. I still remember how conflicted I was about pulling the trigger on that one. I know: "it's all relative...taking into account inflation...blah blah blah". Still - I only had a part time job and I knew what Cheval Blanc tasted like.

And of course, there were the sweet wines. My first exposure to that seductive genre was German - a Scharzhofberger BA (E. Muller) that I remember to this day. Now even back then the Good Sweeties were not cheap. I might treat myself to d'Yquem 375 on my birthday, and I don't think I ever did manage to afford a TBA, but one could always "settle" for a Muscat de Beaumes de Venise or an Auslese or a "lesser" Sauternes/Barsac for considerably less. Like, under 10 dollars. For 750ml. Or NV Port. Or a moscato passito. Or...well, you know. There was a LOT for a poor-but-thirsty student to choose from back then. They just weren't that popular, so they never cost much.

Now....

The very first time my wife came to my place for dinner when we were dating, back in 1998, I made the mistake of serving a '78 Chateau Gloria with dinner and a Fonseca Bin-27 with a platter of fruit and blue cheese after. She'd only ever had white zin before. Ever.

I ruined a good thing. She has developed expensive tastes.

Like me, she has a particular fondness for Good Sweeties. But alas for her, even my old fall-back "cheapies" often fall outside our fiscal reach. Yeah, we splurge once in a while on a Big Name. But it's every couple of years now, instead of months. There are still some great value NV Ports, I'm happy to see, but if you want anything gold colored - 35 dollars for a half bottle of Muscat de Beaumes de Venise? FIFTY for a 375ml Moscato Passito?!

Anyway, the other day I was in my local wine haunt (Gary's Wines in Wayne NJ) and they had a great sale on Bleu dAuvergne cheese. Well who, I ask you, could pass up a sale on Bleu d'Auvergne cheese? Not me. I got a half pound wedge, and shuffled off to the wine bins in search of a match.

It was futile, of course. I glumly stared at half bottles of Barsac starting at 40 dollars, 8o dollar 5-putt Tokays, and cheap-but-still-not-worth-it Quady Orange Muscat crapola. Guess it was back to Bin-27. Reliable, and still 15 dollars.

But then, on the bottom row, I spotted a little glint of gold. Tucked way back, almost as if intentionally hidden from view, was a small pile of BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu' 375's (NV). For $7.99.

It seems amazing to me that in all the years I've been sucking the stuff down, I've never had a sweet BV. I mean, I really liked their top cabs. Back when I could afford them.

So I picked it up.

And since this is a WTN thread:

It was very nice. Doesn't really need more description than that. But I will anyway:

Not a big, floral, luscious Sweetie in the style of the ones I rattled off above. It was rather closed at first, though sloshing it around in the bottom of a big balloon glass helped a lot, as did just 20 minutes of sitting around time. As I said, very nice. Pale and clean, it was actually noticeably better made than a lot I've had for twice the price - particularly Americans (don't get me started on some of the Tennessee muscats I tried during a winery tour there - let's just say it immediately brought to mind the old Monty Python line: "For those keen on regurgitation"). And it went GREAT with the Bleu. I think I found my new Gloria.

Viva las Cheapies!

:D
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:22 pm

Applause!

Great post Tom.
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Rahsaan » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:55 pm

Nice note and great historical perspective! :wink:

I love Bleu d'Auvergne myself, but mainly use it for cooking (in pasta, polenta, pizza, etc)..
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Jenise » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:38 pm

Wow, only $7.99? I fell in love with the BV Muscat back in the early 90's, and it was a great bargain then but more, I know, than $7.99 even in yesterday's dollars. It's not a big one, as you say, but it's lack of unctiousness is precisely what makes it so compelling--it's clean, bright and reasonably complicated. And for that price....

I'm surprised you don't have more options there though: I don't live in a "large market" like you do, but even I have some very good options. Like a terrific 3 button Tokaji for $18, and a local Washington winery called Kiona makes an icewine that's an amazing buy for under $20. And I just put some good 2005 Monbazillacs in the cellar that I paid just $13 for from Garagiste in Seattle, an extreme-value oriented internet-only retailer many here are customers of. Ever do auctions? I have 750's of 88 Girard that I paid just $30 for.
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Brian Gilp » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:49 pm

Tom NJ wrote:The very first time my wife came to my place for dinner when we were dating, back in 1998, I made the mistake of serving a '78 Chateau Gloria with dinner and a Fonseca Bin-27 with a platter of fruit and blue cheese after. She'd only ever had white zin before. Ever.

I ruined a good thing. She has developed expensive tastes.


Boy can I relate. Back when my wife and I were dating she was perfectly happy with the 2% residual muscat that the winery I worked at part-time made and I literally take a couple bottles for free every day I worked. To this day, I regret taking her to a wine auction in Chicago, well more specifically the pre-auction tasting. This is where she first tasted Leroy (a 1955 Volnay and 1991 Musigny) and there has been no turning back.
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Rahsaan » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:17 pm

Brian Gilp wrote:To this day, I regret taking her to a wine auction in Chicago, well more specifically the pre-auction tasting. This is where she first tasted Leroy (a 1955 Volnay and 1991 Musigny) and there has been no turning back.


At least you now have an at-home partner-in-crime :wink:
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Tom NJ » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:39 pm

Jenise wrote:Wow, only $7.99? I fell in love with the BV Muscat back in the early 90's, and it was a great bargain then but more, I know, than $7.99 even in yesterday's dollars. It's not a big one, as you say, but it's lack of unctiousness is precisely what makes it so compelling--it's clean, bright and reasonably complicated. And for that price....

I'm surprised you don't have more options there though: I don't live in a "large market" like you do, but even I have some very good options. Like a terrific 3 button Tokaji for $18, and a local Washington winery called Kiona makes an icewine that's an amazing buy for under $20. And I just put some good 2005 Monbazillacs in the cellar that I paid just $13 for from Garagiste in Seattle, an extreme-value oriented internet-only retailer many here are customers of. Ever do auctions? I have 750's of 88 Girard that I paid just $30 for.


Hi Jenise!

You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm surprised they only charged $7.99 also. I'm almost wondering if it was mis-marked by some acne riddled stock wonk. Maybe I should go back and see if they've rectified things yet....

Actually, I suppose I do have a fair number of *reasonable* options if you get right down to it. But *reasonable* is not "dirt cheap" like it was when I first got interested in wine. I guess I just got just spoiled and refuse to grow up and stop being petulant about Lost Youth :D

Funny you should mention Monbazillac. My wife recently brought home a bottle of 2005 also - Ch. La Foncalpre - for a very, well, *reasonable* price. It's quite pretty in bottle, and we'll probably go back for more.

Never done an auction...mostly because I know I have all the self control of a beagle puppy. I'd end up taking out a third mortgage on my house to finance my impulse buys. You know how us men are :roll:

Oh yeah, I remember Girard! It was always one of the more affordable labels, even back when LOTS were affordable. But 30 for a 22 year old is very muy excellante even by that standard. Good for you! Maybe I should ask wifey if we can float another mortgage now.....
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Dale Williams » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:53 pm

great post, thanks!
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Re: Sort of WTN: BV 'Muscat de Beaulieu'

by Glenn Mackles » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:11 pm

I don't really drink many "sweeties" other than a weakness for a good port. But boy, can I relate to the story about giving your intended some good wine and how that changed everything. When I met my love, she had decided that the oak in inexpensive American Chardonanny wasn't for her so she had graduated to Pinot Grigio... all under $10 a bottle. She didn't know or like red wine and had never really had a "good" champagne or even any of the "better" whites. Now she discusses what she likes about Sancerre and Chablis. She is more than just conversant in champagne. And red? We started at Pinot Noir, graduated to Burgundy... now we are into Shiraz and Grenache, Chateau Neuf de Pape and even the occaisional Bordeaux. She still isn't quite there with regard to big Cabernets and Zins but she stole a sip of a recent good Cabernet I was drinking recently and I got the "That isn't half bad." I've created a wine monster. Glad I'm not the only one.

Great Post!

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